Posted on 03/25/2020 8:39:04 PM PDT by conservative98
Over 4 million New Yorkers — or 50 percent of the city’s population — will get the coronavirus, Mayor de Blasio warned Wednesday.
“It’s a fair bet to say that half of all New Yorkers and maybe more than half will end up contracting this disease,” de Blasio said at a City Hall press briefing about the outbreak as the Big Apple’s positive cases approached 18,000 with nearly 200 deaths.
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let’s give him the virus and watch him on camera, yea I know, that’s just wrong..so we have been attacked by a superpower, nada, please attack us more, nada, so is God telling the world enough of the fake stuff...the birds of the field do not sow or reap for food, why does man of little faith...concrete borg planet, man deserves what he gets..and it will probably be by His own hand..
you wanna live in Appalachia, furget aboot it
the sewer rats which feed on the carcasses will vote for them, oh that is them..sorry
Not possible. Between 0.1 and 2% of cases become critical or serious from worldwide data. Even if a million people had it (1/8 of NYC) that would mean at least 1000 people in the ICU in NYC. That has not happened. The 2% number is for the US. The 0.1% is from Switzerland.
Hopefully that is true. It is true for Switzerland. The number is even less in Germany but their numbers are a little fishy. But by bed we have to talk about an ICU bed, not just a hospital bed.
Not possible,. The worldwide hospitalization rate does not support that, even using Germany's outlier numbers.
He should be jailed, along with Nevada governor.
Nope - if we did nothing for at least 2 cycles of this virus, some of those numbers could happen...ain’t gonna happen under current conditions.
Don’t bogart that joint, pass the dutchie on the left.
Don’t forget the Green Mountains too. There has been nothing but a steady stream of out of state plates into the state in the past ten days. Many of our new cases are from out of state. The state is locked down. My wife just got her internal passage papers and I’m awaiting mine.
He is correct. What we DON'T know yet is what percentage will just experience mild or no symptoms.
As of yesterday NYC had 20K positives and 3800 in hospitals. 19%.
The Princess seems an event no one can explain. Now it is not ev er n mentioned, except its stats are highlighted on worldometer.
You are basing your conclusion on incomplete information, and faulty reasoning. No government authority anywhere has been testing for antibodies that would indicate if a person has already had the virus and recovered. They have been testing to see only if a person has an active infection.
Over half of those infected have no symptoms, another 30% have symptoms mild enough to basically be ignored. The numbers for young people are much greater than that. The Italian government has stated that 99% of the people who have died there had underlying conditions or circumstances which made them vulnerable.
This is very serious for people who are old, sick, smoke marijuana or tobacco, or have other medical histories histories that make them vulnerable. For young healthy people it is almost nothing 90% of the time.
In some places it is almost certainly much higher than that. We won't know for sure until tests for antibodies that indicate whether you have had it become available. But since this will most likely mean serious egg on a bunch of powerful political faces this will be suppressed.
I am not an original thinker on this but my wife and I live in an area with approximately half a million recent Chinese immigrants. People have been hacking around here more than normal since December. No one thought much about it until the Life Care Center in Kirkland got hit and the virus was identified as the culprit.
How many have mild or assymptomatic? 20k? 100k? a million? You have no idea, but it could be a huge amount. The only people that come in for treatment are those with serious symptoms.
The data says - by a huge amount - the elderly are most at risk and those with pre-existing conditions. No one ever said it ONLY hurts them, just like with other things it does as a much lower rate affect the young, but it overwhelming impacts those 70+ and especially 80+ (eg: average age of death in Italy is 81 so far). Unfortunately, there are a huge # of relatively young that have pre-existing conditions too, including ones they may not have known about.
You have two claims. I don't know if there's evidence for the first (no symptoms at all). I have seen some support for the Italian outcome. I would point out that 0.1 to 2% of COVID-19 cases wind up in serious or critical condition. 0.1% is from Switzerland, 2% is from the US, S. Korea, and other countries.
You can obviously argue that the no-symptom cases are not being counted so Germany is more representative. In Germany there are 23 serious/critical cases out of 35,586 so that would mesh up pretty well with New York's serious/critical/death rate with a million or more infected and untested.
I think the jury is out. You can hang your hat on Germany's numbers but I would prefer to wait and see.
One more thing though, consider the false positive rate of the tests. The original WHO test had 10% false positives which is useless in the rare scenario I am arguing for. Our tests have at least 1% false positives although they don't reveal the numbers. That test would also be useless for a rare scenario, but would be useful for your scenario.
IOW, mass test 10M New Yorkers, find 1M or more positives, and you are correct. Or if I am correct and we mass test 10M New Yorkers we will find 100,000 false positives and perhaps 10,000 true positives. A fake epidemic and mass hysteria.
That is true but unless the serology is performed on at least 10% of the pop we have no idea. However there is a difference between current asymptomayic and asymptomatic recovered. Recovered are immune. Current are infectious.
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