Posted on 03/25/2020 4:20:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
Where was the great toilet paper escape on this one?
People in densely-populated Singapore and Hong Kong (we’re talking NYC-dense here), where white collar workers are squashed into tiny cubicles, are managing to go back to work without significant new infections. The secret is face masks. Given the toll imposed by infections, whether in terms of suffering or potential death, I’d say it makes sense to charge anyone not wearing a mask with aggravated assault. Minimum 6 months in prison and a felony record. After a few highly-publicized convictions, combined with the media’s klieg lights on the scofflaws, everyone will wear a mask.
We can’t even arrest people for robbery in NYC. Face masks...
“Because the Wuhan coronavirus spreads so easily, even if contained, the virus is expected to eventually infect at least half of all Americans.“
The Spanish Flu of 1918 infected roughly one quarter of the population of this country. The Swine Flu infected about seven percent back in 2009. There are no credible reports that 750 million Chinese have been affected by Covid-19.
Not since the Black Death in the Middle Ages has a pandemic infected the kind of percentage this article suggests. These estimates are wildly exaggerated.
The Democrat goal is to destroy the capitalist economy and rebuild to a brutal socialist state.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3828076/posts?page=1#1
From the Federalist, a different view.
Someone please explain to me how shutting down will, in the long term, save lives and prevent people from eventually getting the virus.
Seems to me it will only greatly prolong the disastrous effects, thus inflicting far more damage on the economy and lives in the long run......
Seems to me let it run its course, and it will be gone soon. Devastating effects, yes. But less than the path we are taking.......IMHO.....
But then, what do I know?
I don’t think anyone thought it was the long term answer nor does anyone think this will go on forever.
“Someone please explain to me how shutting down will, in the long term, save lives”
By spreading out serious infections and preventing more cases at one time than there are hospital beds.
“and prevent people from eventually getting the virus.”
The lower we make R0, the fewer people ever get the virus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3506030/
We don’t yet know if survivors have immunity. There are many reports of re infection from inside China and Hong Kong, and that the second time around it’s worse. If true, that completely discredits the “herd immunity” strategy. We need a vaccine.
This disease is 2 - 3 times as infectious as the flu, and at least 40 million people get the flu every year despite mass vaccination (and there’s no vaccine for the China virus). Do the math.
From what I read, it sounds like South Korea did not shut down businesses. They tracked where COVID-19 patients traveled. If they went to a store, the store was closed for cleaning for a few days and reopened. And they’ve been the most successful in the world at containing the virus.
That is not true. All the articles I read said the re-infection idea is just a rumor. Any appearance of that was simply caused by faulty testing or releasing a patient before they were fully cured. This is a virus so your body will have immunity if you survive and clear the infection.
It is definitely true that like a lot of illnesses, symptoms may fade away and come back stronger later. But this is not a re-infection.
It’s a big country. We have the space to make more beds. South Korea converted corporate dormitories into facilities to house the less sick, non-critical patients. This also served as a quarantine to keep them out of the public. The strategy worked. They needed a little time to ramp things up and get things read like any country would. But the idea that we need long-term stay-at-home orders, shutdowns and lockdowns is absolutely absurd. Any government who says that is simply a government that is not doing their job. It would be like the garbageman saying we don’t have the capacity to store your garbage, so you have to keep at home this year.
Well, I have 3 sons with higher math degrees that would understand this, but I sure don’t.
The virus will never disappear, but will always be with us lurking somewhere, so it is inevitable that most of those who are susceptible to getting it eventually get it.......
So, then if patients are released too early and are still infectious, we don’t know all the parameters. How long must individuals be quarantined after their symptoms are gone to prevent this? Two weeks post-recovery? That means we should be arguing for a national 6-week quarantine for everyone.
“the idea that we need long-term stay-at-home orders, shutdowns and lockdowns is absolutely absurd.”
Agreed - we need an exit strategy.
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