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1 posted on 03/20/2020 5:41:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Trump needs to back off...a recession will kill more than this virus. USA is not the same as Italy.


2 posted on 03/20/2020 5:46:00 PM PDT by impimp
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To: little jeremiah

because China has been colonizing Italy. The only thing Trump did wrong was not imposing travel bans even earlier and even more restrictively. Even so, he’s being called “Hitler”. Well, they’re going to do that no matter what.


3 posted on 03/20/2020 5:46:30 PM PDT by cdcdawg ("Americanism, not Globalism, will be our credo." DJT 2016)
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To: little jeremiah

Why Italy? Simple...fashion.Designed in Milan,manufactured in China. Add a horribly backward health care system and you have a recipe for disaster.


5 posted on 03/20/2020 5:47:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: little jeremiah

Read about this a few weeks ago..only on FR. Enlightened many people thanks to what I learned.


7 posted on 03/20/2020 5:48:25 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: little jeremiah

But we’re only a week behind Italy. I’ve been hearing that for a month now.


8 posted on 03/20/2020 5:49:13 PM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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One factor affecting the country's death rate may be the age of its population — Italy has the oldest population in Europe, with about 23% of residents 65 or older, according to The New York Times. The median age in the country is 47.3, compared with 38.3 in the United States, the Times reported. Many of Italy's deaths have been among people in their 80s, and 90s, a population known to be more susceptible to severe complications from COVID-19, according to The Local....

Often, as testing expands within a community, more mild cases are found, which lowers the overall death rate, Gordon said. This was the case in South Korea, which conducted more than 140,000 tests and found a fatality rate of 0.6%, according to Business Insider. - https://www.livescience.com/why-italy-coronavirus-deaths-so-high.html

Italy almost has oldest average age (the US in the top third at 61) out 230 countries .

Meanwhile: Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told to Discriminate Against Elderly Patients : They “Will be Left to Die” (Italy) Yet, "Over 1,000 People Cured [recovered] of Coronavirus in Italy"

Also, an American doctor (who affirms universal HC) who has worked in Italy for 40 years states,

The Italian healthcare landscape includes crumbling hospitals, doctors trained on books rather than patients, and per capita spending one-third that of the United States. And Americans like to say their medical care is the best in the world, while Italians consider their National Health Service to be hopelessly dysfunctional. (In 2000 the World Health Organization ranked the Italian system second-best on the planet. But that stellar rating was based solely on equality of access on the one hand and health outcomes such as life expectancy on the other, ignoring any on-the-ground realities in between: waiting times, emergency room efficiency, surgical statistics, etc.)

But here’s the rub: Italians are much healthier than Americans in terms of everything from overall health longevity, infant mortality, obesity, cancer, diabetes, suicide, drug overdoses, homicides, and disability rates. On many of those measures, they beat out the UK as well.

The latter is much due to culture: that of a healthier lifestyle and diet. - https://www.thelocal.it/20190322/what-can-italy-teach-the-rest-of-the-world-about-health

further site-searching on "America" finds her also stating this reveling insight from 2018:

Americans who knew something about Italy used to nod knowingly when I’d tell them the National Health Service was going from bad to worse,

Mario Monti.. installed to take over from Berlusconi as Prime Minister, who proceeded to force austerity with a vengeance on Italian regions in deficit, which meant most of them. Poof! there went the hospital beds, and the staffing, leaving patients amassed on gurneys in emergency room halls. Mario did more damage to ordinary Italians’ health care in one year than Silvio had in seventeen.

The right-wing League and the no-wing Five-Star Movement, the two parties currently – and improbably – sharing power, have made rosy joint promises to restore funding for the public medical sector, fight corruption, and improve services. Plus promising their constituents everything from earlier retirement to a guaranteed minimum income.

But it’s all pie in the sky, based on a magic trick....When they cobbled together a government, each party stuck to its own promises, despite the glaring contradiction between taking in less and spending more. - http://www.stethoscopeonrome.com/2018/12/warning-politics-may-be-bad-for-your.html

,Te average age at death from the disease in Italy stood at 81 earlier this month, according to the country’s health department. Related:

https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065 Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic . Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff.

`Open-Air’ Treatment in 1918 During the great pandemic, two of the worst places to be were military barracks and troop-ships. Overcrowding and bad ventilation put soldiers and sailors at high risk of catching influenza and the other infections that often followed it.[2,3] As with the current Covid-19 outbreak, most of the victims of so-called `Spanish flu’ did not die from influenza: they died of pneumonia and other complications.

Al Jazeera reports:

At the end of December, an uncommon number of pneumonia cases arrived at the hospital of Codogno in northern Italy, the head of the emergency ward, Stefano Paglia, told the newspaper La Repubblica. Some of these patients could carry the coronavirus, but doctors treated them as typical winter diseases.

Unfortunately, a decisive contribution to the spread of the infection was given by the health facility itself, due to the amount of medical staff and attendees going through the compound daily. "The hospital acted as a multiplier," Walter Ricciardi, executive board member of the World Health Organization (WHO) and consultant for the Italian health ministry, told Al Jazeera.

Italy has tested more than 42,000 people so far, while other European Union countries performed significantly fewer controls. This scrupulous search inflated the tally, he said. (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-wreaks-havoc-italy-tests-limits-health-system-200307112350888.html)

13 posted on 03/20/2020 5:58:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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“On February 1, 2020, the mayor of Florence initiated something called “Hug a Chinese” day. “

Open borders woke political correctness is going to be the death of us all.


14 posted on 03/20/2020 5:59:50 PM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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It is very common for Italians to kiss friends and relatives hello and goodbye. Also the generations in the typical Italian family remain close, which is a characteristic shared with the Chinese.


19 posted on 03/20/2020 6:05:22 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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This is the reason why when the CComWuVi (Chinese Communist Wunan Virus) results the Italian socialists were releasing. I questioned if they were Chinese ? Because most FR’s thought they were all native aged Eyeties. Which enhances the panic concern of getting quick infection attached to CComWuVi


23 posted on 03/20/2020 6:25:50 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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25 posted on 03/20/2020 6:39:51 PM PDT by bitt (forget the electric chair..we're gonna need electric bleachers!)
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Italy is being ravaged for ONE reason. It has nothing to do with how many Chinese are there. It has nothing to do with age. They are being ravaged because when this virus started to take off they did NOT take it seriously. They did NOT consider it a threat. They did not impose harsh measures to stop its growth until it was too late. That’s the ONLY reason. Virtually EVERY Italian in the know says that exact same thing.


27 posted on 03/20/2020 6:40:22 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Everyone needs to understand this.

Italy is a victim of China's One Belt One Road debt trap strategy ["And one ring to bind them"] to take over strategic assets world wide -

Everyone should read The FederalistIran And Italy Are Paying A Hefty Price For Close Ties With Communist China

29 posted on 03/20/2020 6:46:53 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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There was little accountability for the Chinese, and much for the native Italians.
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Substitute Mexican for Chinese and Americans for Italians and this fits America.


31 posted on 03/20/2020 7:13:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: little jeremiah

Why Italy? The article correctly speaks to the huge Chinese presence in Italy. These Chinese hake frequent trips to China. There are direct flights daily. Couple that with:

January 18: Despite the presence of the coronavirus, Wuhan holds a “potluck” banquet for 40,000 families to try and break a world record, The New York Times reported.

January 23: Wuhan is finally locked down, even though about 5 million people had already left the city without being screened by that time.

Italian Chinese were no doubt present in great numbers at the banquet and , no doubt, received in a large number of the 5 million who left Wuhan after the epidemic staarted. Italy had no chance.


32 posted on 03/20/2020 7:34:50 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Tracy catching up to what I told these folks a week or so ago. Theyre still going to go along with the stupid fashion story. Like an ostrich realizing something is wrong then trying to push its head further into the sand.


39 posted on 03/20/2020 9:03:37 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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We have even witnessed the legacy media seemingly hold water for the communist nation [...]

The expression is to "carry water" or be a "water-carrier" for someone.

To "hold water" or "not hold water" ("That argument doesn't hold water!") has an entirely different meaning.

Semi-literate "journalists!"

Regards,

42 posted on 03/21/2020 12:37:10 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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