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Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told to Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die” (Italy)
Life News ^ | March 12, 2020 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/12/2020 4:14:34 PM PDT by Morgana

The world is in a state of paranoia currently as nations try to combat the spread and effect of the coronavirus. Italy is facing the worst of the crisis right now and its medical system has descended into a state of chaos, according to news reports about the situation there.

One doctor who is treating patients there likened the situation to treating patients in a battlefield, like Vietnam or the aftermath of the attacks on Pearl Harbor and having to make split-second decisions on which patients will be treated and which ones will be denied care after a quick triage.

Shockingly, the same anti-life rationing ethic that is pervading medicine nowadays when it comes to the promotion of euthanasia and assisted suicide has taken hold in Italy, as elderly and disabled patients face discrimination because they are not young and healthy.

And one news report indicates an Italian medical college has issued shocking guidelines to doctors and medical professionals telling them to just let elderly patients die. As The Atlantic reports:

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of “life-years” left even if they should survive, will be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. “In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.”

In addition to age, doctors and nurses are also advised to take a patient’s overall state of health into account: “The presence of comorbidities needs to be carefully evaluated.” This is in part because early studies of the virus seem to suggest that patients with serious preexisting health conditions are significantly more likely to die. But it is also because patients in a worse state of overall health could require a greater share of scarce resources to survive: “What might be a relatively short treatment course in healthier people could be longer and more resource-consuming in the case of older or more fragile patients.”

These guidelines apply even to patients who require intensive care for reasons other than the coronavirus, because they too make demands on the same scarce medical resources. As the document clarifies, “These criteria apply to all patients in intensive care, not just those infected with CoVid-19.”

This is the essence of rationing health care, and for everyone since the guidelines apply even to people not infected or possibly infected by the coronavirus.

The irony is that the guidelines are called “distributive justice.” But there’s no justice when treatment decisions are based on who is considered too old or too ill. Every human being has a right to life and deserves medical care and treatment regardless of their age or disability. Governments and the private sector need to step up and do everything possible to ensure no patient gets left behind.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: communismkills; coronavirus; covid19; deathpanels; italy; prolife
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1 posted on 03/12/2020 4:14:34 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

very sad.

I don’t know how drs can decide ‘you will live’ and ‘you will die’.


2 posted on 03/12/2020 4:15:50 PM PDT by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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To: Morgana
you have one kidney to transplant into an end stage renal disease patient...

.one patient has diabetes, high bp,unable to ambulate by themselves, and has a feeding tube.... and is 82 yrs old.

the other is 42 yrs old with two children to support....

who gets the kidney?

3 posted on 03/12/2020 4:17:58 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Morgana

Somebody has to make the tough decisions when there isn’t enough to go around.


4 posted on 03/12/2020 4:19:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: sauropod

Limited resources call for extreme measures
Collectivism causes shortages


5 posted on 03/12/2020 4:19:12 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: sauropod

I don’t envy doctors who have to deal with life and death issues in the normal course of their work. In conditions such as this I can’t imagine how frustrating and depressing it must be to have to meet a wave of it head on.


6 posted on 03/12/2020 4:20:30 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: cherry

What if you’re 51 and relatively healthy but fat? :)

If they go by BMI I won’t even be able to get advil pm again!

just a little (weak) humor on a dark news day.


7 posted on 03/12/2020 4:21:17 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: sauropod
Socialized Medicine?

What can Italy teach the rest of the world about health?

8 posted on 03/12/2020 4:21:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The end is nigh, and COVID-19 was beat out by the fearmongers... enough already!)
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To: Morgana

Triage, if necessary, is only through a failure to prepare.


9 posted on 03/12/2020 4:22:13 PM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: Morgana

Ain’t socialized medicine grand?


10 posted on 03/12/2020 4:22:52 PM PDT by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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To: sauropod

There have always been situations where decisions like this had to be made. According to letters and articles that have gotten out, this is a big part of the whole thing that is emotionally devastating to the healthcare workers in Italy.


11 posted on 03/12/2020 4:23:34 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: griswold3
we've promised long lives to everybody even if they're bed ridden,can't eat, can't swallow, barely breathing, and have early dementia......

some people think that we can prevent death.....

this wuf virus proves one thing....that we've kept people alive with the tiniest of wiggle room....that their situations are so precarious that a virus can kill them, while others have no or mild symptoms...

12 posted on 03/12/2020 4:30:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: dp0622

hey I’m in a high risk group....I’ll never even get fuzzy hospital slippers...


13 posted on 03/12/2020 4:32:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: vpintheak

It has nothing to do with socialized medicine. It has to do with limited resources. But I had to be those who have to make those tough decisions.


14 posted on 03/12/2020 4:35:11 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a ballot)
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To: cherry

lol


15 posted on 03/12/2020 4:36:21 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: sauropod
I don’t know how drs can decide ‘you will live’ and ‘you will die’.

It is called 'Triage'. Triage is important in disaster situations when the number of patients greatly exceeds the availability of medical personnel. Combat, or large capacity vehicle crashes in remote areas can make triage necessary.

"early 18th century (in the sense ‘the action of sorting items according to quality’): from French, from trier ‘separate out’. The current sense dates from the 1930s, from the military system of assessing the wounded on the battlefield."

16 posted on 03/12/2020 4:42:58 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: cherry
who gets the kidney?

What if it was your mother or father?
17 posted on 03/12/2020 4:46:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Morgana

G*d D*mn.

But the crimmigrants will get the best care and probably settlements including homes and lifetime welfare.


18 posted on 03/12/2020 4:59:02 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: SoConPubbie

not a question mark in the MSM about the choice of Zeke Emanuel:

11 Mar: NBC: Biden campaign forms coronavirus advisory committee
by Adam Edelman
Joe Biden’s presidential campaign has formed a public health advisory committee to assist it with responding to the rapidly spreading coronavirus.
In a statement, the Biden campaign said it formed the body “to provide science-based, expert advice regarding steps the campaign should take to minimize health risks for the candidate, staff, and supporters.”...
The campaign said the committee would consist of six members — all doctors or former government officials — including Dr. Zeke Emanuel, a noted oncologist, the vice provost of global initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania and the brother of former Obama chief of staff, Rahm Emanual...
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-cases-top-1-000-spread-n1155241/ncrd1155836

yet Zeke is a most unsuitable choice for Biden, whose mental health is being questioned; and unsuitable for dealing with a virus that is more virulent when it comes to the elderly. why hasn’t the MSM referenced the following?

Oct 2014: TheAtlantic: Why I Hope to Die at 75
An argument that society and families — and you — will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly
Story by Ezekiel J. Emanuel
But here is a simple truth that many of us seem to resist: living too long is also a loss...
For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop...
The situation becomes of even greater concern when we confront the most dreadful of all possibilities: living with dementia and other acquired mental disabilities...

What about simple stuff? Flu shots are out. Certainly if there were to be a flu pandemic, a younger person who has yet to live a complete life ought to get the vaccine or any antiviral drugs. A big challenge is antibiotics for pneumonia or skin and urinary infections. Antibiotics are cheap and largely effective in curing infections. It is really hard for us to say no. Indeed, even people who are sure they don’t want life-extending treatments find it hard to refuse antibiotics. But, as Osler reminds us, unlike the decays associated with chronic conditions, death from these infections is quick and relatively painless. So, no to antibiotics.

Obviously, a do-not-resuscitate order and a complete advance directive indicating no ventilators, dialysis, surgery, antibiotics, or any other medication—nothing except palliative care even if I am conscious but not mentally competent—have been written and recorded. In short, no life-sustaining interventions. I will die when whatever comes first takes me...
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/


19 posted on 03/12/2020 4:59:19 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: sauropod

A lot of FReepers sadly have the same opinion...


20 posted on 03/12/2020 5:15:58 PM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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