Posted on 02/27/2020 4:29:07 AM PST by Kaslin
I disagree.
What are the odds they let him back in?
I’ve been in major league locker rooms. The warning about gambling is on every door.
I appreciate what a good player he was. But his “crimes against baseball” were not a one time thing.
A lifetime ban is appropriate. And the day after he dies is when he should be enshrined. Not a day before.
Either the rules mean something or they don’t.
Bwahahaha!
No, Banned for Life is Banned for Life
Sorry, Pete
nope...they never reinstated Joe Jackson and the other 1919 “Black Sox”....
I see what you did there.
Agreed. I would want to see “Shoeless Joe” reinstated and then put in the Hall of Fame before any consideration for that sort of thing is given to Pete Rose.
No way. Just because there are others who did bad things does not mean his crimes should be forgiven.
And, steroid users haven’t been given a pass. Many have, in effect, been banned from the HOF, eg Barry Bods, Roger Clemens, Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa.
If MLB reconsiders Joe Jackson and inducts him, then maybe we can give Pete Rose some mercy.
I agree about Shoeless Joe. He has to e reinstated first. And he won’t be.
I think he’ll be reinstated after he is deceased. He should be thankful for that. It would be a better deal than what Shoeless Joe Jackson got.
The Hall of Fame is a separate entity to MLB. Writers for the most part do the determining of who gets the nod for entry. Pete for his on field accomplishments would be automatic. His ban by MLB for gambling doesn’t preclude his entry but writers think its a factor enough to keep him out for now. As time goes by that may change but also maybe not. Shoeless Joe still ain’t in.
And Shoeless Joe, who I believe died in the 1950's, should have been admitted long ago.
2 things always bothered me about him passing Cobb...one, he kept playing simply just to get that record...and 2, how many of those hits were “astro-turf singles”...very good player..greatest hitter ever??...hardly. Everyone knows that was Ted Williams...
It has nothing to do with the writers. The Hall Of Fame and MLB are separate entities, but the HOF bylaws stipulate that a person banned from MLB is ineligible for admission.
If I was a betting man, I’d say slim.
Good post. Rose is far from the greatest hitter ever. He may have had more hits than anyone else, but his .303 lifetime batting average ranks #171 of all time.
Would you be open to the idea of a sinners wing of the Hall?
IIRC, Shoeless Joe’s statistical record from that infamous 1919 World Series does not really incriminate him or suggest that he was influenced by nefarious interests (throwing games for gamblers). Also, that he was barely literate when he “signed” his confession. That is why I’ve questioned his being banned from baseball to begin with.
Big difference in fixing a World Series and, as Manager, betting on your team to win. Never bet on the Reds to lose, only win.
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