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The California Supreme Court definitely got this one right. Employees are not at work for their health. Amazon had the same issue years ago and the case went to the Supreme Court. Although Amazon won that case they eventually drop the policy due to being exposed.
1 posted on 02/14/2020 5:21:48 AM PST by southern rock
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To: southern rock

Agreed. I’m rather astounded that something this sensible would come out of a California court.

Amazon treats its people like inmates, or so I’ve read.


2 posted on 02/14/2020 5:24:49 AM PST by Nothingburger
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To: southern rock

For awhile I worked for a company that did on site repair and maintenance on equipment. They assigned work the day before and often techs would be given jobs 100 to 150 miles from the office and the policy was you started your day at the first job. So a tech would drive and hour plus off the clock.

One of the employees took them to the Labor Board and won. They had to pay back wages and the new policy was you started and ended your day at the office.


5 posted on 02/14/2020 5:30:53 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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It's part of the job requirement....this is really a no-brainer.
6 posted on 02/14/2020 5:34:37 AM PST by ealgeone
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I remember working in a retail place - you couldn't leave until you cashed out your drawer. Well, it took an hour for that to happen and the time was not paid for. You could put overtime on your timecard but it had to be approved by a manager that night and the managers deliberately made themselves scarce.

When I quit they tried to keep the last check and I had to threaten to report them for illegal labor practices. Upon observing my detailed typed report they decided to give me my last check after all. Retail is brutal sometimes.
8 posted on 02/14/2020 5:41:33 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: southern rock

Our kids worked for a local fast food place before they were old enough to drive. One night while waiting in the car, I watched as they carried out several huge trash bags then get in the car. I asked about whether they remembered to clock out as they never went back in. They said it was the rules-you clocked out then brought the trash to the dumpster on your way out. This took about 5 minutes each night-having to carry bags huge bags over to the dumpster and get them up and over.

Even though it wasn’t the biggest thing, it grated on me because I knew the owner and his reputation is far from generous. There are local tradesmen who refuse to work for him because he doesn’t want to pay the full amount once work is done. I didn’t want to cause a problem so I never encouraged them to challenge that, but I assumed that an employee can’t be required to do work after clocking out.


11 posted on 02/14/2020 5:49:19 AM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: southern rock

It comes down to whether Apple will lose more money by writing off the occasional theft or paying employees for search time.


13 posted on 02/14/2020 5:53:14 AM PST by libh8er
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Maybe Amazon can start having Amazon Company Stores, Amazon Living Quarters and Amazon Dollars too.


19 posted on 02/14/2020 6:07:53 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!z)
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I agree. This is something done to benefit the company, not the employee. If it needs be done, the company needs to do it on their time.


22 posted on 02/14/2020 6:17:54 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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If it is a condition of employment and it takes the employees time, the employee should be paid for it.

I worked in aerospace and everyone was searched exiting the gate. Lunch boxes opened, backpacks opened, briefcases opened. Everyone was ready for it and it only took a few seconds.

I heard a story about a guy wearing a raincoat on a hot, clear August day. Nothing suspicious here. As he wobbled toward the gate they stopped him. He had a big vice tied between his legs. Not worth losing a job over. But then again he probably not too good at his job either.


26 posted on 02/14/2020 6:26:28 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: southern rock

I agree with this one.


29 posted on 02/14/2020 6:32:01 AM PST by Crucial
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Absolutely... Apple was STUPID to think it would not have to pay people while waiting to be allowed to leave...


31 posted on 02/14/2020 6:34:17 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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