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How Private Equity Buried Payless shoes
NY times ^ | 31 Jan 2020 | Niel Irwin

Posted on 02/01/2020 2:28:17 AM PST by Cronos

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To: Spktyr

A big problem for brick-and-mortar retailers is that they’ve become showrooms for savvy shoppers; you could enter the store, try on shoes, then leave and order the exact pair online for less money.

Retailers understand this, and are trying to entice people with different gimmicks.


21 posted on 02/01/2020 4:50:11 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It’s not just coming, it’s here - at least in Dallas. Lots of people here I know use Instacart or similar services. I’ve had to use them myself when I was ill or recovering from a motorcycle crash and could not get out. Never had issues with the quality of what I ordered or what showed up, all as expected.


22 posted on 02/01/2020 4:58:30 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cronos
Hedge funds are just investment pools, so no, they don't kill businesses. In many circumstances they provide the capital that helps businesses grow.

Private equity and leveraged buyout companies do sometimes kill businesses. Probably not intentionally, but they tend to extract too much cash, and take on too much debt in businesses that they may not fully understand. The result if often failure.

Running a successful business is not easy, and schemes that are designed to extract value instead of build value usually end up badly.

23 posted on 02/01/2020 4:59:14 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Spktyr

Yes, there are services like Instacart, DoorDash, etc....but grocery is going to take this direct and cut out the delivery middlemen.

Some will succeed and some will fail, but nearly all will try to get a piece of it.

Amazon did not buy Whole Foods for fun.


24 posted on 02/01/2020 5:07:10 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: kearnyirish2

This is true, but a lot of them have turned to online sales themselves. Order online, pickup in store is getting increasingly common.

Of the B&M stores complaining about getting eaten by the Internet, many “mom and pops” are simply reaping the crop they’d previously sowed when they were the only game in town - poor customer service, lack of product knowledge, arrogantly mistreating customers that they thought couldn’t go anywhere else, etc.


25 posted on 02/01/2020 5:08:14 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yup. Though the Instacarts and DoorDashes of the world will still have a role with smaller stores that can’t afford large delivery fleets or in areas the fleets won’t serve.


26 posted on 02/01/2020 5:09:08 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

In my experience it was the reverse; the chains brought in indifferent employees, while the mom & pops were local owners with local workers.


27 posted on 02/01/2020 5:11:43 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: wastoute

Actually you can if you buy what you have.

have bought the same Merrill Moabs size 10, both low cut and high cut at least four times

That is, from a reputable manufacturer there is consistency


28 posted on 02/01/2020 5:18:32 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: kearnyirish2

I ran into an awful lot of “local owners with local workers” that were charging extortionate prices with terrible customer service because they were “the only local store selling {product type}, so where ya gonna go?”

This backfired on them when chains came to town, and it’s backfired on them even more now that internet commerce is a thing.

A case in point: For a while in the 90s, I had some really bad years and was compelled to live in a small town outside Dallas for economic reasons. The local feed store was a Mom and Pop operation, was the only such operation for a good 20-30 miles, and they knew it. One day they decided they wanted more money and quadrupled the price of all pet food. When customers complained, they were told that the customer obviously had money for a lazy freeloading non-working animals so they could easily pay the increase and if they didn’t like it, why, they could go to Dallas and get their food instead. Including no few little old ladies who lived downtown and *couldn’t* drive to Dallas to get food for their little furry friends. I don’t really think I need to tell you what kind of situation that put these fixed income seniors in; the owners of the store and the staffers simply didn’t care.

There was no shortage of opportunistic jackass little M&P stores like this in the rural area either.

Watching them go out of business, screaming all the way, when the chains showed up a few years later was hilarious.

From speaking with others, this isn’t/wasn’t uncommon in rural areas all over the country.


29 posted on 02/01/2020 5:32:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

We just had a True value, local owned, hardware store shut its doors after 10 years.

The owner cited many reasons and did point out that they had comparable prices to the Home Depot about 8 miles away and said she did a fair business but no where near what they needed to ‘stay afloat’.

She did cite the easiness of sitting on your couch, eating bon bons and ordering over the internet with ‘free’ delivery the next day as a factor but only one of many.


30 posted on 02/01/2020 5:38:05 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yep, I don’t mind going to DSW when it’s time for new shoes.


31 posted on 02/01/2020 5:40:05 AM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Spktyr

I believe you; I just live in a different area (a dozen miles west of NYC in NJ). We’ve already lost most of our family-run restaurants, delis, and other small businesses; chains have displaced most of them (and it is a real shame; they were very good - probably because of the competition - and offered better product).

It is getting harder and harder to find a place that makes old-school American sub sandwiches...


32 posted on 02/01/2020 5:41:50 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: sjm_888

Not sure which plague is worse - managers or coronavirus.


33 posted on 02/01/2020 5:42:11 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: xrmusn

I don’t know where you are, but my local Ace Hardware/TrueValue/etc., independent stores have learned to survive with order-online, pickup-in-store as an option.

Things such stores need to survive in this era:
1. Great customer service and product knowledge.
2. Significant marketing campaigns and targeted online advertising. A lot of people don’t know these stores exist as they really only know to look for HD and Lowes.
3. Knowledge to leverage tech at every point they can.
4. Doesn’t hurt to offer weird stuff that the big boys don’t bother with but somehow a lot of people end up needing.
5. Constant reassessment and re-evaluation of all the above.

There are several such stores in Dallas that *should* be dead but have survived the online onslaught through the above. Also, it doesn’t have to be delivered, it just has to be available online for order 24 hours a day, and accommodating hours for pickup at the store the next day.


34 posted on 02/01/2020 5:45:55 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jim Noble

Newly minted MBAs given power and lifetime sinecure bureaucrats are tied for that. Coronavirus is second.


35 posted on 02/01/2020 5:47:32 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sjm_888
all the while saying the workers are not working smart enough

Businesses fail because of management. Period. This comment is indicative of stupid managers who are probably Dunning-Kruger charter members.

36 posted on 02/01/2020 5:48:28 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: kearnyirish2

It is really easy to find such sandwiches here in DFW. Lots of local shops, no few chains - not including Subway or Quiznos in that list, either. Don’t know what to tell you on the lack of availability in your area.


37 posted on 02/01/2020 5:50:07 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cronos
Do hedge funds kill businesses?

The thing that kills businesses is people with MBA degrees.

38 posted on 02/01/2020 5:55:59 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Spktyr

In my area the family delis (which were everywhere 30 years ago) are dying, so sandwiches either come from a chain or the pre-made garbage in supermarkets and convenience stores. A lot of it is demographic; the Americans are disappearing, and the replacements have their own “sandwiches” (empanadas, tacos).

The family pizzerias are hanging on, despite the competition of the chain stores which have sprung up everywhere here; the difference in quality and taste is incredible. I live near the pizzeria featured in the “Sopranos” intro; it now has Egyptian owners (but kept all the mob paraphernalia as the décor).


39 posted on 02/01/2020 5:57:37 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cronos

The NYT understands Capitalism only slightly better than a dog understands what makes a radio work.


40 posted on 02/01/2020 5:59:15 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's no coincidence that the Democrat/media complex always sides with America's enemies.)
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