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How Private Equity Buried Payless shoes
NY times ^ | 31 Jan 2020 | Niel Irwin

Posted on 02/01/2020 2:28:17 AM PST by Cronos

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To: kearnyirish2

Down here, we’ve had some of the family deli type places open up, which I like as it was difficult to get a good pastrami sandwich for a while there. Perhaps they just moved down here from up there?

Down here, Hispanics have always been a part of Texas, so it’s not like Hispanic foods weren’t a thing from day one. We have restaurants that serve tacos and fajitas off the same menu that includes burgers, subs and pizza, and all of it is at least acceptable.

There’s a semi-famous diner in the DFW area that dates back to the 1950s and is more or less still original. It’s gone through several owners, but not much changes. Current owner is (if I recall correctly) an Iranian Christian who GTFO of that country after the fall of the Shah. Nice guy, refuses to open Sundays.


41 posted on 02/01/2020 6:03:12 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cronos

Crappy shoes kill shoe companies. Their shoes are poorly made and uncomfortable.


42 posted on 02/01/2020 6:04:58 AM PST by Bookwoman (And I am unanimous in that.)
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To: Spktyr

Hispanics have been around here since the 50s (Puerto Ricans) and 60s (Cubans); now we have a lot of South and Central Americans as well, and they are replacing the American population - there are less “sub eaters” here to sustain those businesses.

Our diners were great before, but now have morphed into restaurants (with restaurant prices and much more extensive menus). Still open 24 hours, though; they do good business when the bars close.


43 posted on 02/01/2020 6:06:56 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Spktyr

Hey, why post the giant picture? Do Millies need pictures of everything, like ordering off the menu at Denny’s, or did you just figure no one ever never heard of Italian motorcycle boots before 1980?


44 posted on 02/01/2020 6:07:41 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Cronos

It didn’t help any that their shoes were made from Chinese cardboard.


45 posted on 02/01/2020 6:08:43 AM PST by moovova
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To: wastoute

Zappos would like to differ with you on that.


46 posted on 02/01/2020 6:11:52 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

1. It’s only 600x600, which is a lot less than quite a few graphics posted on FR. If you have a machine that’s less than a decade or so old, you should have a display and a web browser window that’s at least 1024 pixels wide. Modern minimum standard is getting to be more like 1980.
2. I figure old cranky boomers like you needed visual aids, writ large. I also figured the (presumably) cranky boomer that asserted that people couldn’t buy shoes over the internet would need photographic proof that these things exist.
3. Complain some more about this reasonable compromise for older machines and I’ll start posting actual modern high resolution 4K+ images, just for you.


47 posted on 02/01/2020 6:15:34 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Last time I went to the local indy sub shop, everyone in there but me was clearly Hispanic. Everyone seemed to be enjoying their subs just fine; was pretty full, too.

Also, FYI: http://www.delinewsdallas.com/home/ - just one of the many NY-area-style delis that have cranked up around here in the last few decades.


48 posted on 02/01/2020 6:18:42 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
for Final Mile delivery and grocery is the next big thing and it is coming fast!

In 1997 when the internet (and Amazon) was young I worked with a guy that suggested a web site where groceries cold be ordered online and then delivered to the house. We all laughed at him out loud!!!

49 posted on 02/01/2020 6:20:41 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: wastoute; Spktyr

“Shoes. One thing you can’t buy on the internet.”

That’s why there’s a Dick’s Sporting Goods....Amazon’s shoe showroom.

I’m on my fourth pair of Columbia Redmond trail running shoes purchased online...after trying them on at Dick’s. Second pair of Danner boots. Admittedly, the second pair of Danners fit but there was something at the lace line that was pressing into my ankle. I didn’t return them and vowed to make them work (I have). They were camo and hard to find. As mentioned...easy return policies are a big bonus.


50 posted on 02/01/2020 6:21:44 AM PST by moovova
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To: bankwalker

Bet you’re not laughing at him any more.


51 posted on 02/01/2020 6:22:32 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: wastoute; Spktyr

Oh, and Brookes running shoes...3 pair so far.


52 posted on 02/01/2020 6:25:50 AM PST by moovova
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To: Spktyr

Didn’t bother me, really. I just figured one generation gap snark deserved another.


53 posted on 02/01/2020 6:30:04 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Spktyr

We lost contact, but I’m sure he’s kicked himself many times for not following through with it.


54 posted on 02/01/2020 6:30:25 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: wastoute

Actually you can. Try finding boots in a retail store. Impossible for all practical purposes create

If you’re familiar with the term, motorcycle riders often wear engineer boots. They’re what I like to wear when I ride.

Basically the only way to buy those is online. What you do is you go to Amazon or Zappos and you order anywhere from three to five pairs. You try them on when you get them and you ship back whatever you don’t want for free. You get a refund within a few days. Boot purchase finished.


55 posted on 02/01/2020 6:35:18 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Spktyr

I think the children of the newcomers will eat them, but the parents don’t have to; there is no shortage of small places making their favorites from Lima, Quito, etc....


56 posted on 02/01/2020 6:40:22 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: central_va
Because you don't have to pay for shipping?

It's a tossup. For many things, even with shipping costs, it's cheaper than going to a store that has to pay rent, requires more employees, and has to deal with shoplifting.

57 posted on 02/01/2020 6:46:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Spktyr
It’s not just coming, it’s here - at least in Dallas. Lots of people here I know use Instacart or similar services. I’ve had to use them myself when I was ill or recovering from a motorcycle crash and could not get out. Never had issues with the quality of what I ordered or what showed up, all as expected.

A friend (with mobility-limiting health issues) has her groceries delivered from the local supermarket. She orders online, and it gets delivered within two hours for no extra charge (although she does tip the driver).

58 posted on 02/01/2020 6:49:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Malsua
There was that.

And, as many things in the "new economy" and the "new America" they got too expensive for what they were.

Payless was the place where you picked up a pair of $10 shoes or $2 flip flops.

Last time I went in there, my son needed a pair of shoes for a function he had to attend. I think they wanted $40 for a plastic pair of cheap looking shoes. I walked over to Nordstrom Rack, picked up a NICE pair of Cole Haan shoes on clearance for $55.

My reasoning is always, if I am going to buy something cheap, it better be cheap.

59 posted on 02/01/2020 6:53:23 AM PST by riri
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To: bankwalker
In 1997 when the internet (and Amazon) was young I worked with a guy that suggested a web site where groceries cold be ordered online and then delivered to the house. We all laughed at him out loud!!!

You should see what Walmart is doing in groceries! Nobody is laughing now.

60 posted on 02/01/2020 6:55:00 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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