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To: NorseViking

“Churchill is nothing to be proud of. He sold out Eastern Europe to the Communists”

There’s a lot wrong with that statement including the fact that FDR had more to do with where the armies halted than did Churchill.

Russia was fighting 80 German divisions which would have been free to turn on us if Stalin had come to a separate peace and stopped fighting once they drove Germany out of Russia. A very real worry at the time.

Stalin had been been fighting Germany since Hitler double crossed him in June 1941. We didn’t invade France until June 1944. Stalin had been bitching for years that we weren’t opening a second front and taking pressure off of the Red Army. We wanted them to stay in the fight.

Eastern Europe is Russia’s border. They had internal lines of supply and short ones at that. Had we intended to occupy Eastern Europe we would have first had to conquer all of Germany and build a very long logistical tail to keep going east.

And we wanted the USSR to help us defeat Japan if an invasion of the Home Islands was required. Operation Olympic was projected to cost us one million casualties. No one knew that the atomic bombs would get Japan to surrender.

“Selling out” eastern Europe was a matter of accepting reality. It wasn’t some misguided political decision.


53 posted on 01/30/2020 11:16:09 AM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Pelham

“” “” There’s a lot wrong with that statement including the fact that FDR had more to do with where the armies halted than did Churchill.”” “”

Churchill didn’t stop armies because he was nobody. I am now talking about Tehran and Yalta conferences. It was his idea to sell out East Europe to insure Stalin’s participation after the Soviets evicted the Germans from Russia.
Soviet control over EE wasn’t a reality at the time.

“” “” That may work with someone as ill informed as you are.”” “”

The combined losses on both sides in the battle of Britain are about between 1% and 2% of that of the battle of Stalingrad and related skirmishes. That generally explains the British input into defeating Germany.
British major agenda was to keep the Jews out of Palestine at the time.
Poland worked harder to defeat the Germans.


59 posted on 01/30/2020 12:01:52 PM PST by NorseViking
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