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Justice Department Believes It Should Have Ended Surveillance of Trump Adviser Earlier
WSJ ^ | 1/23/2020 | Byron Tau

Posted on 01/23/2020 4:38:52 PM PST by bitt

Government tells court it lacked probable cause in last two of four eavesdropping applications for Carter Page

WASHINGTON—The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed Thursday.

The Justice Department made that determination in a December letter to the secret court that oversees surveillance of suspected foreign spies, acknowledging it may have lacked probable cause to continue wiretapping in the last two of the four surveillance applications it sought against Mr. Page.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: justicedepartment; surveillance
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1 posted on 01/23/2020 4:38:52 PM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 01/23/2020 4:39:05 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of its citizens should be afraid.)
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To: bitt

Ah, well, lesson learned then.


3 posted on 01/23/2020 4:39:35 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/FISC%20Declassifed%20Order%2016-1182%2017-52%2017-375%2017-679%20%20200123.pdf

Article lacking source doc.


4 posted on 01/23/2020 4:39:47 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of its citizens should be afraid.)
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To: Texas Eagle

So who in the Justice Department is going to jail for this?!?


5 posted on 01/23/2020 4:42:32 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

Neaux Boddy.


6 posted on 01/23/2020 4:43:34 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

https://oig.justice.gov/press/2019/2019-12-09.pdf


7 posted on 01/23/2020 4:44:09 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of its citizens should be afraid.)
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To: bitt

It had no legal basis to start an investigation at all.

But ORANGE MAN BAD so it’s ok.


8 posted on 01/23/2020 4:45:06 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: bitt

One Question Please

Have ANY of the Lawyers that committed this Fraud Upon The Court, Lied to The Court and Deceived The Court been DISBARRED Yet???


9 posted on 01/23/2020 4:47:34 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: bitt

The old “Oopsie” defense. Not only did they not have justification for the last two FISA warrants, they didn’t have it for the first two. Page was just the highest person in the Trump campaign to not be immediately known to everyone. Asking to bug Donald Trump Junior might have set off alarm bells even among the biggest Democrat hacks on the FISA court.


10 posted on 01/23/2020 4:48:08 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Cutest internet video: Charlie bit my finger. Creepiest internet video: Joe Biden bit my finger.)
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To: bitt

FISA court is just as corrupt and worthless as most other courts.


11 posted on 01/23/2020 4:49:05 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Texas Eagle

Indictments.

Fair trials.

First class hangings.

In that order.

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12 posted on 01/23/2020 4:50:51 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Per obxxx: “A teachable moment.”. Grrrrrrrrr


13 posted on 01/23/2020 4:51:02 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: KarlInOhio

We meant to stop butt we forgot. Yeah, that’s it. We forgot.


14 posted on 01/23/2020 4:52:01 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: bitt

Thanks.

Not even top secret!


15 posted on 01/23/2020 4:54:11 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Impeachment is all that you have left when you lose every argument. Life's losers love impeachment!)
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To: bitt

It was the spell check that done it.


16 posted on 01/23/2020 4:57:15 PM PST by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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17 posted on 01/23/2020 5:30:59 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: bitt

1) If Carter Page was never an agent of a foreign power, NONE of the FISA warrants were ever valid. DoJ gets an “F” in logic if they can’t figure that out.

2) Did the FBI use the Page FISA warrants to surveille Flynn, Manafort, Trump, other Trump campaign personnel and appointees? We don’t know, because it took 3 years not to investigate the issue. IG Horowitz systematically excluded looking at collected materials that didn’t relate to “Russian collusion”. Spying on a President and his campaign and what was done with the info just didn’t interest him for some reason.

3) If the DoJ pursues Flynn, assuming the court approves his petition for withdrawing his guilty plea, demands for discovery should include the entire surveillance product of the Carter Page warrants (both before and after the official date of approval), and anything else involving Flynn and Trump.


18 posted on 01/23/2020 6:14:29 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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19 posted on 01/23/2020 6:19:42 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Texas Eagle

We’ll have a training day with a catered lunch and maybe we’ll send out an email...no wait...we’ll pay a lefty consultant a lot of money to produce a training dvd.


20 posted on 01/23/2020 7:06:55 PM PST by Eagles6
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