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To: Eleutheria5
> You keep pretending that there is a difference between tax payers and tax beneficiaries. > Yeah, it's pretty easy actually. Payers == $$ OUT, beneficiaries == $$ IN > The question is, how to arrange the benefits and the taxes so that they work to create the result desired, more productive taxpayers. > Productive? How so? TO whom? Our Republic doesn't exist to ensure govt is a positive cash flow entity, let alone centrally-planned social engineer for some "utopia". > Producing functioning citizens means producing people able to produce and provide for themselves, and share the burdens of citizenship, thereby relieving the “others”. They become taxpayers, rather than remaining burdens. > Burdens of citizenship? Pray tell, what are those? Piggy-bank for 'benefits' to others? Easy way to remove the 'burdens': terminate the illegal welfare state in all it's many shapes/matter/forms/types & shrink govt back to its rightful size. > So therefore the thing to do is continue to produce failure and continue to subsidize it. Take the money away and the school will either shape up to attract the money back, or ultimately close down. > "Try coherence. This is unreadable.". Glass houses, FRiend. Govt doesn't SOLVE issue(s)\problem(s); esp. not by denying its own power grabs via 'take the $ away'. @ least not w/o YEARS to push-back & further $$ flushed down the tubes. X closing down from lack of funds for its failure @ [A|B|C..] only happens in the REAL world, not govt.
26 posted on 01/29/2020 10:23:39 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: i_robot73

Do you believe that Trump is going to abolish the Income Tax and defund everything except the post office and military? Dream on.

School choice is what you do when education is going to be funded no matter what, in order to make the funding smarter and more effective, and throw a wrench in the machinery of multi-generational dependency.

That goes: Payers==$$ Out for “education”, $$ Out for welfare moms, $$ Out for prisons, $$ Out for fake rehab programs, $$ Out for more welfare moms, $$ Out for more “education,” and $$ Out for more prisons. Repeat until society collapses.

School choice isn’t extra money out, it’s allocating the money that’s already going out in a way that might end this vicious cycle. I say might. But you say, if it costs money, blahblahblah it costs money. I have yet to hear a constructive alternative from you. You’re opposed to public education. I’m opposed to keeping it as it is.

So are a great many minority voters who have been victimized themselves—not by “white supremacy” or any of those other fake bugaboos, but by the public non-education system, and the welfare state that it’s designed to perpetuate. I agree with them. You disagree with everyone.

If I’m wrong, give me a real alternative that is right.


27 posted on 01/29/2020 10:35:13 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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