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The White House Annoys Doctors with Plans to Boost Competition
Townhall.com ^ | January 14, 2020 | Devon Herrick

Posted on 01/14/2020 5:59:33 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: TheNext

ok. When you are in the ER with chest pains a lecture on how to prevent heart disease will go a long way.


41 posted on 01/14/2020 8:18:44 AM PST by Mom MD (o)
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To: NobleFree

The best protection of course is a well educated, freedom loving, moral, discerning public that is aided by a truth seeking legitimate press and ethical politicians. Alas people are on their own these days.


42 posted on 01/14/2020 8:20:00 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Kaslin

Since Obastardcare was brought, I saw my charges at my primary care doctor go from under 100 bucks for a ten minute, or less visit, to 283 bucks.

And I dont even get to see the doctor. Its the NP I see.


43 posted on 01/14/2020 8:20:27 AM PST by crz
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To: TheNext

There’s no money in prevention.

Big Pharma wants you to eat unhealthy, to get you hooked on their products.


44 posted on 01/14/2020 8:22:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mom MD

Question to you. Say I became wealthy-really wealthy. And I offered to pay for your schooling if you agreed to practice in my community, a very small one, for a period of time to pay off my paying for your schooling.

Would you think it a good program to get more into the medical practice?


45 posted on 01/14/2020 8:25:51 AM PST by crz
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To: crz

A similar program already exists — med school debt can be paid off if one goes to underserved communities. The system definitely could use some revamping. My daughter just graduated from med school with about 240k of educational loans. That is after we paid entirely for her undergrad and helped with med schools expenses. She has some of lowesr outstanding debt in her class


46 posted on 01/14/2020 8:29:36 AM PST by Mom MD (o)
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To: Mom MD
I have come to the conclusion that a lot of hearth problems come not only from lifestyle choices, but a good portion from stress from this governments insistent meddling into our daily lives.
My long time Doctor and I talked about this and he thought that it was one major cause of heart problems. I miss him, like you he retired.
47 posted on 01/14/2020 8:30:10 AM PST by crz
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To: dfwgator

What you are implying is in order to be healthy, an outside entity needs to do that for you.
It is simple, really. Don’t eat to obesity, don’t smoke, don’t drink and exercise.
Why should the government have to pay for something that is in your own control?
Prevention is used as a mantra, but in reality poor lifestyle is the reason for premature death in the USA.


48 posted on 01/14/2020 8:31:12 AM PST by kaila
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To: Georgia Girl 2
When I go to the doctor I want to see a doctor.

Should your preference be forced on everyone willing to see a NP or MA?

49 posted on 01/14/2020 8:31:34 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mom MD

Did not know that. Is it a government run program?

I live in Golden Valley Az. A largely rural community with about 8 to 9 thousand people who are largely elderly.

And no real doctors or clinic here. And you know what I mean by real doctors.


50 posted on 01/14/2020 8:33:03 AM PST by crz
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Doctors and medical facilities pay a LOT for CYA insurances.
What’s the third leading cause of death here?
How big are some of the many pain & suffering judgements?


51 posted on 01/14/2020 8:36:50 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: NobleFree

“Should your preference be forced on everyone?”

No but how long do you think it will be before you aren’t allowed to see a doctor unless you exhibit certain symptoms? Will there be a discount in price because you are not seeing a real doctor?


52 posted on 01/14/2020 8:37:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: kaila

“...don’t drink and exercise.”

Oh, c’mon! I like beer with horse shoes.


53 posted on 01/14/2020 8:39:06 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Mom MD
I do not like this news. I recently changed doctors (prior was retiring) and when making the initial appointment I specifically asked "am I going to see the doctor or a NP/PA".

A few years back I was sitting in a clinic, waiting to see my MD, and a PA was running around, frantic, looking for his cell phone, quite the drama queen. You could tell the front desk staff did not care for him. Out of curiosity when I got home I looked up his credentials and found out his degree was in...art history. This qualified him to become a PA? Yikes.

Had a good friend who for two years told the PA (he never - not once - saw the MD) that he had stomach/gut pain that over time was getting worse. The PA's standard response was "lose weight". Yes he needed to lose weight and yes, IMO, he needed to see a real doctor. The PA never suggested tests of any sort. The friend died two years later of colon cancer.

54 posted on 01/14/2020 8:41:38 AM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: crz

it’s a government run program. I think it favors areas like reservations etc.... Probably your best bet is looking to set up a telemedicine program with a university or large hospital system


55 posted on 01/14/2020 8:41:52 AM PST by Mom MD (o)
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To: Mom MD

Yes, I can give you a good lecture on preventing heart disease.

You can begin with a study that came out a couple years ago.

Prevention should require courses and classes. And it should definately be allowed to compete for Medicare dollars not just managing tragedy years later.


56 posted on 01/14/2020 8:46:52 AM PST by TheNext (I Am Therefore I Think)
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To: TheNext

You can learn all about prevention in a simple google search if you so wish. However, most people are lazy and do things that are detrimental to their health. The only way to prevent that is to have the government have dictatorial powers over you.


57 posted on 01/14/2020 9:17:03 AM PST by kaila
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark


58 posted on 01/14/2020 9:56:37 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: Mom MD

>> i’m retiring as soon as I can.

An indication of the problem — the Democrat’s ACA disaster.

It’s a new game now with tele-docs, PAs, & NPs. Perhaps the middle bar could be raised a bit to ensure the necessary skills and experience.


59 posted on 01/14/2020 10:05:47 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jim Noble

“The problem is a crossing weather front as you clear 2000 feet AGL on the way in. THEN you need a pilot.”

You don’t think the flight simulator “pilot” can discern that condition and call the real pilot?

It’s somewhat similar to seeing a GP who refers you to a specialist when he recognizes that the problem is beyond his abilities.


60 posted on 01/14/2020 10:10:40 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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