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To: Ouderkirk

We were in Utica New York about 7 years ago. We were camping nearby and went in to the City on a Friday for dinner because hubby had read that some hole-in-the-wall fish place had a great fried fish dinner.

We’re all pretty street smart, and we were pretty well scared at 6 pm on a summer afternoon. Hubby even asked our friend: do you have your gun? Which he did not, btw.

What a dump of a city. It makes Newark, NJ look like Paris France. It must be really a delight in the winter.

Sorry Uticans who may read this, but your city is a mess.


36 posted on 01/12/2020 10:35:55 AM PST by jocon307 (Dem party delenda est!)
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To: jocon307

Utica NY took a real beating back in the late 1990’s. Griffiss AFB closed and GE left. There weren’t any jobs to speak of, and the job I took was doing commercial sales at a small manufacturer.

The Corn Hill section was literally on fire. Every evening, there would be a house fire. The fire department would engage and start putting it out. Then four more would start up once they got their equipment setup.

The deal was... you’re paying a mortgage on a house you can’t sell for enough to close out the loan let alone any money and you don’t live anywhere nearby. What do you do?

Enter our friends with the broken noses. House 1 is the sacrifice. They set it on fire and the FD puts it out. You file the claim and rebuild the house on the cheap and sell for what you can get. The other three or four fires are the real target. They are TOTAL losses by the time FD can set up to contain the fire(s) the only thing left is the cellar. For them, they take the insurance $$$, fill in the cellar and leave the house to the city for back taxes and they are in the clear. The deniability is that they were living in North Carolina or Texas and weren’t anywhere nearby when it went down.

For a few thousand dollars you could get yourself out of a tough spot if you knew the “right people”. Utica was always known as a “mob” town.


75 posted on 01/12/2020 12:06:28 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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