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Rand Paul responds to Pompeo: You’d have to be brain-dead to believe that
CNN youtube channel ^ | January 6, 2020 | CNN

Posted on 01/06/2020 5:36:31 PM PST by Widget Jr

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To: Theoria

Well, there is that...


21 posted on 01/06/2020 6:18:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump didnÂ’t want an AG, he wanted a consigliere.)
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To: datricker

The Kharg island oil terminal is and has always been very vulnerable. Destroy its facilities and Iran’s oil exports and revenues simply cease.

Just takes a Commander in Chief with the cojones. PDJT just demonstrated he has those in spades.


22 posted on 01/06/2020 6:27:09 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: kingu

“What path is there to negotiation?”

When negotiating each party anticipates to get something out of it. But Iran is an aggressor, having waged war against the US since 1979. They should not receive anything. They must unconditionally surrender and we all know when that will happen..


23 posted on 01/06/2020 6:27:21 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Widget Jr

The Mullahs in Tehran have have few actual allies, in its region or the world.

Both China and Russia are friends of convenience and are not going to back an Iranian WWIII Jihad against the U.S.

Iran will not initiate a conventional arms attack on U.S. military bases, knowing the “conventional” response from the U.S. will be massive.

Iran will use its internationalized proxy, its Quds Force, in one or more kinds of attacks its uncoventional Quds Force is used to. The U.S. will hit the sources and the planners of any such attacks.

It will be tit for tat for some period of time, not WWIII.


24 posted on 01/06/2020 6:30:35 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Sarah Barracuda
President Trump has made it clear — he has 52 sites (maybe mecca and medina?) in mind and Iran may sabre rattle until the cows come home but KNOWS there is nothing it can do to prevent them.

Which is part of the Trump Strategery: yell all you want but take any action and WHAM!

As someone pointed out — if Iran was going to do anything it would have already been done. Every day that passes between the incident and the “response” waters down that response. By now it is so watered down it is just vapor.

25 posted on 01/06/2020 6:38:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: Widget Jr

I saw something about Trump sending a letter to Iraq saying we will leave Iraq.


26 posted on 01/06/2020 6:46:21 PM PST by RichardMoore (Without the protection of life all other right are void, dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Wuli
The question is how much tit for tat there will be and how the U.S. will respond.

Iran is in a really vulnerable position right now, and will be for several weeks or months.

The President is not using the old rules, so Iranian deniability is now denied.

27 posted on 01/06/2020 6:55:22 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

No one should be surprised by Rand Paul’s remarks they are consistent with what he believes whether you agree with them or not. I think the bigger point for President Trump is that Rand represents a voting block in the Republican party who are for the lack of a better word “doves”.

I would think that Trump has not committed himself without some kind of exit strategy to deescalate this situation. And is why I am expecting some form of withdrawal down the road similar to Syria. Where troops only remain to secure certain facilities and provide rapid response.


28 posted on 01/06/2020 6:59:01 PM PST by MagillaX
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To: RichardMoore
That was a draft letter, not signed. The Marines and 82nd Airborne who just arrived are not turning around and leaving until our embassies and facilities are secure.

The Iraqi vote that said they wanted Americans out is being misrepresented by the MSM. It was a non binding vote by Iran's people in the Iraqi Parliament. The Sunni and Kurds MP were absent.

29 posted on 01/06/2020 6:59:37 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Rand Paul acts like Iran is a major power on par with what Germany and Japan were in 1941. Maybe he could buy a history book.


30 posted on 01/06/2020 7:08:55 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Widget Jr

I firmly believe that Iran is just short of a students revolution that would overthrow the mullah’s.

All trump would have to do is hit the right leaders, and the right command and control and Iran goes back to the way it was before ayatollah assaHola took over.


31 posted on 01/06/2020 7:12:56 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“Iran has been waging asymmetrical war by proxy against the US for over 40 years.”

+1

Rand isn’t daft, he just doesn’t let facts get in the way of his reasoning.


32 posted on 01/06/2020 7:14:39 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Widget Jr

While I agree with Rand Paul on many issues, he is clearly wrong on this issue. Ron and Rand Paul are positioning for a 2024 presidential run.


33 posted on 01/06/2020 7:15:32 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Pelham
Good point. Didn't Reagan's Navy destroy the entire Iranian Fleet in the 80s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
34 posted on 01/06/2020 7:18:33 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Mr. K

With a million-men Army, the “students” can’t do anything. The only force that can bring down the Mullahs is the Army.


35 posted on 01/06/2020 7:25:45 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.9we)
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To: Widget Jr

If anyone has experience with being brain-dead it’s the Pauls.


36 posted on 01/06/2020 7:34:01 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Widget Jr

Rand just gave bad international optics to our enemies. He needs to support this President, not give ammo to the Democrats.


37 posted on 01/06/2020 7:54:56 PM PST by WWG1WWA ("Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity." - Marcus Aurelius)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Not exactly. Iran had a small navy and losing a frigate and some patrol craft was significant. It disrupted Iran's ability to interfere with commerce in the Persian Gulf and sent the message Iran would face direct consequences for attacking anyone.

(Does that sound remarkably familiar to current events?).

For battle where a entire navy really was wrecked, there is the Battle of Bubiyan during the first Gulf War. Royal Navy Sea Lynxes firing Sea Skua missiles took out most of the Iraqi navy. In total 21 of 22 Iraqi warships present were destroyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bubiyan

38 posted on 01/06/2020 8:01:47 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Go back to having sex with Tucker Carlson Rand.

Both are bigger appeasers than Dems.


39 posted on 01/06/2020 8:14:19 PM PST by Fledermaus (Horowitz was a waste of time and money, Barr and Durham better not be.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Diplomacy with who Rand? Murderous dictators? Peace in our time Neville Paul?


40 posted on 01/06/2020 8:15:53 PM PST by Fledermaus (Horowitz was a waste of time and money, Barr and Durham better not be.)
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