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State and County bureaucrats, still rolling in the dough: You, the taxpayer, work till you're old so that they can retire at 50
American Thinker ^ | 12/24/2019 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 12/24/2019 9:05:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

We all know the stories, at least if we live in California or New York, about the California prison guards who retire on six-figure pensions, or the school custodians who for their six-figure salaries, can't be bothered to sweep the floors at New York's run-down public schools.

Turns out those outrages aren't just apocryphal, they are going on now. According to an item in ZeroHedge, via Forbes, citing a new data compilation at OpenTheBooks:

The work of our auditors at OpenTheBooks.com tells a compelling story: Public service is supposed to be about serving the people. However, the good intentions of America’s 19 million public employees come at a very high price for the people – nearly $1 trillion. In many cases, taxpayers generously fund these employee salaries.

Our online database is free to use and includes most employees within the federal, state, and local governments. You can search in your backyard or across the nation. Find out just how much public employees made last year. The salary records include name, salary, position title, and employer for 2017.

The data is full of stunning examples.

You'll work till 80 so they can retire at 50, and you'll pay those monster pensions to boot.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bureaucrats
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1 posted on 12/24/2019 9:05:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I've known the scam called govt service for a long time.....I do wish I had just jumped in when I was younger and muddle thru govt work like many of them do....but I didn't....I work for a non profit and have done so for decades......

its always been a dirty little secret that teachers actually get well compensated, that military service pays far higher then similar work in the private sector, that skill-less desk sitters can manage to afford the best of everything....

but I know.....they "earned" it so there...

2 posted on 12/24/2019 9:11:57 AM PST by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind

The worst thing JFK did was allowing public employees to unionize.


3 posted on 12/24/2019 9:15:25 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I worked in a NJ public school

The highest paid employee was one of the Custodians

That guy practically lived at the school, working all the overtime he can get his hands on

Next highest paid person was the Superintendent

Then the gym teacher, all of those school sports (coaching) pay well and gym teachers get first dibs at them. That guy brought it 120K (in 2008ish) and bitched how low paid he was.

Then the business administrator and assistant school principal


4 posted on 12/24/2019 9:16:39 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: cherry

I’m a teacher in Los Angeles and I have to agree: I have never complained about the pay. The expectations they have of us are ridiculous, and if I actually did everything they say I should be doing, I’d literally be working 80 hours a week (except in summer, when they actually do want us still working and training as much as possible, but they can’t force us). But I don’t complain about the pay. In fact, increasingly I’d take a cut in pay if they would lay off the pressure for me to perform miracles for 180 kids a year, put on a dazzling show every day, several times a day, a new show the following day, to magically turn kids with no academic interest into little Einsteins. The pressure is constant and wildly unreasonable, and I am beginning to really hate the job. But yeah... the pay is not the problem. The cost of living in Los Angeles is a bit of a problem, but... (sigh)


5 posted on 12/24/2019 9:18:49 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: hoosierham

The worst conflict of interest in history. Gotta end some day or end up like Venezuela.


6 posted on 12/24/2019 9:19:12 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: SeekAndFind

In Californicator land we have retired sheriffs and chief’s of police becoming city managers or asst to something.

Their retirement pay is often over 200K/year, and their new job pays over their retirement pay.

So you have guys in their 40’s or early 50’s getting an incredible retirement plus an incredible current salary.

Their health benefits are top drawer with minimal if any withholding for those benefits.


7 posted on 12/24/2019 9:20:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Some folks know how to play the PERS to their benefit. YUGEly.


8 posted on 12/24/2019 9:21:34 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

At my kids’ middle school, there is a ‘guidance counselor’ who does class scheduling and makes, last time I checked, $235K per year. She’s also head of the union for the school district.

Pretty good gig for 180 school days per year and gold-plated health-care and retirement.

She’s also the most useless and brainless administrator in the entire school.


9 posted on 12/24/2019 9:21:38 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

A similar thing could be said about academia and their scam of gouging students with ever increasing tuition costs and putting the hapless borrowers in debt for decades to come.


10 posted on 12/24/2019 9:25:35 AM PST by Starboard
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To: A_perfect_lady
listen, I don't begrudge any teacher or other govt worker what they get....but I just hate the little games people play in this country.....

eg....the "poor"....the "poor" in this country make out pretty dang well considering their SS, and perhaps for all their family members, their food stamps, their free health care, housing, bus passes, etc....there was a report a couple of weeks ago that actually not working and just collecting gives a person as good a life as someone working full time but low paying jobs..

11 posted on 12/24/2019 9:29:06 AM PST by cherry
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To: Starboard

Read a few years back..the Assistant fire chief in Boston became fire chief when the the Fire chief went on vacation..he retired at fire chief pay... what a scam


12 posted on 12/24/2019 9:34:17 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Grampa Dave

Don’t use too broad of a brush to paint with. I was the Public Works director at a small city in Washington State and I had my assistant water superintendent retire at age 50, because he could, under the PERS 1 pension system. Under that system his retirement was based off of the top 2 years of pay. At the time he retired he was making about $48,000 and with 30 years at 2%/year that would be $28,800/year. His medical to cover him and his wife was going to cost him at the time (pre-Obamacare) $1,500/month or $18,000. I tried to talk him out of it but he wanted to be an ass so away he went.

A year later he wanted to get his job back but I just laughed in his face. Lat I heard he was driving long haul trucks.

My point is Washington State’s pension system is not the gold plated one we hear about in California, NY, or Illinois. We do see a lot of retired California LEO and FF’s try to come up and take the open Chief’s jobs though so they can double dip.


13 posted on 12/24/2019 9:38:41 AM PST by shotgun
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To: SeekAndFind

What a shameless scam by often worthless public “servants”. Many despise Citizens. Pathetic. Criminal.


14 posted on 12/24/2019 9:39:00 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: cherry
I don't begrudge any teacher or other govt worker what they get....but I just hate the little games people play in this country.....

I agree.

15 posted on 12/24/2019 9:39:16 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: PGR88

She’s also the most useless and brainless administrator in the entire school.

Aren’t those requirements to be a “‘guidance counselor’”!


16 posted on 12/24/2019 9:41:38 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: hoosierham
The worst thing JFK did was allowing public employees to unionize.

Not even close.

17 posted on 12/24/2019 9:49:29 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: SeekAndFind

“You’ll work till 80 so they can retire at 50”

That’s absolutely true. My dad turned 79 this year and is still working 6 days a week running his one-man store.


18 posted on 12/24/2019 9:53:59 AM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Wake me when a prominent democrat actually gets prosecuted. ))))
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To: shotgun

I have no idea what retirement costs in your state.

In California, it is outrageous. I learn more about our retirement scams each day.

I’m so dumb that I thought that coaches got a few bucks for coaching.

If they coach big draw sports with good teams in football and basketball, it is a big chunk of change to go with their teachers or principal’s salary.

One of our adult sons with a good paying double engineer management job has been approached with dual offers as manager of the school and grounds and any expansions or new construction in a local school and a private one 30 miles away.

Good pay, and an added bonus if he coaches wrestling or asst coaching in football in the private high school or the local one in his area. The local high school would be a 5 minute bike ride and a 10-15 minute run from his home.

Both jobs provide a pickup truck at no cost and excellent health care insurance for a few bucks each month.


19 posted on 12/24/2019 9:58:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: SeekAndFind

In the age of class warfare, I’m surprised the American taxpayer has let this go on this long and this quietly.


20 posted on 12/24/2019 10:00:23 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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