Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

As a Pro-lifer, 'It’s a Wonderful Life' Is Hard to Watch
Townhall.com ^ | December 22, 2019 | Shawn Carney

Posted on 12/22/2019 6:18:09 AM PST by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 next last
To: albie
Actually, one argument for this movie is that George Bailey is a liberal. All Potter is doing is giving loans to people who earned them thru good credit and consistent employment. Bailey gives loans to people with questionable credit and ability to pay them back. Hence, Bailey is broke.

Indeed, Potter is a competent businessman who profits by giving customers what they want, affordable rental housing, a hot commodity during the acute housing shortage in the years that followed WWII.

Yes, Potter was wrong to keep the wad of cash that George Bailey's woefully incompetent uncle inadvertently handed him. But perhaps Potter, a stockholer in the Baileys' enterprise, saw this as payback for the losses he had incurred as a result of the Baileys' bad business practices such as running a do-gooder sub-prime loan scheme designed to make "everyone a homeowner."

21 posted on 12/22/2019 7:27:55 AM PST by Fiji Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: irish guard

“I understand the point of the article, but it’s a bit of a reach to dislike Its a Wonderful Life because of abortion. It’s entertainment and good entertainment at that.”

Right, like Siggy Freud once said, “Sometimes a cigar is just cigar”


22 posted on 12/22/2019 7:35:12 AM PST by billyboy15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
If not for Roe vs. Wade, couples would have been more careful because an unwanted pregnancy would have been much more disastrous to them. More people would have used birth control or abstinence. So it's not like all 60 million aborted souls would actually have been born. But yeah, some of them would have been born; who knows how many.
23 posted on 12/22/2019 7:37:36 AM PST by Nea Wood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

It’s not hard to watch, don’t be an effing snowflake, we have enough of those.


24 posted on 12/22/2019 7:38:23 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
While I love this classic film, it is hard to watch as we approach 2020 because it begs the question -- how different could things be in 2020 be if abortion had never existed? What if all those children had been born?

Considering that abortion has mostly been used as a *primary* form of birth control--that is, that the women having abortions did not even consider taking steps to prevent the pregnancies--I doubt that most of those children would have been born. On the contrary, most of those children would never have existed in the first place, since their mothers would have selected a different, non violent, form of birth control.

And I cannot stand watching "It's A Wonderful Life." I seriously do not believe the world can be fundamentally different with the addition or removal of a specific person. Furthermore, we cannot know the effects if person Y had existed or person X had not existed. Impossible to know, and a waste of time to speculate (unless you are a fiction writer exploring alternate histories or something).

25 posted on 12/22/2019 7:42:32 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker
A simple truth also is that many who were aborted, had they not been, would not have been followed on by children who were brought to term.

For a number of reasons, post-abortive women have fewer children than non-abortive women. Abortion causes psychological issues that make them less likely to want children. Abortion causes physical issues which makes them less able to have children. The most common outcomes are pregnancy loss and premature births. A rarer outcome is inability to become pregnant.

Although I sorrow for every child slaughtered in an abortion, I do recognize that those whose maternal instincts are so weak that they can kill their own children are eliminating their genes from the gene pool. I think it is elimination of certain genes (related to weak maternal instincts) that has led to the ongoing drastic drop in abortion numbers that we have seen since abortion was legalized.

26 posted on 12/22/2019 7:47:53 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

More democratic voters most likely since majority abortion are from liberal and women of color.


27 posted on 12/22/2019 7:49:46 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Its not just this one issue.

Quicky marriages and no-fault divorce has also devastated the family.


28 posted on 12/22/2019 8:10:43 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

This is a pathetic interpretation of the message of the movie.

Why?

Because it reveals in a marvelous way what the loss of one child can mean.

If anything at all related to abortion, “It’s a Wonderful Christmas” is the ultimate answer to, “Why not?”

This writer missed the forest for the trees.


29 posted on 12/22/2019 8:14:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom

“I seriously do not believe the world can be fundamentally different with the addition or removal of a specific person.”

It all depends who that person turns out to be. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say that Hitler had a very significant impact on the world, and most would judge it as bad.

If we look at history, most of the big turning points were driven by a single minded INDIVIDUALS with incredible WILL POWER - Alexander the Great, Caesar, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Napoleon, Washington, Hitler, Mao, Lenin, etc.

The vast majority of people have negligible impact on the world individually. Only when motivated and marshaled by a Leader’s vision does their influence become consequential.


30 posted on 12/22/2019 8:30:48 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom

Interesting theory. I’d have thought it was the day-after pill, etc., but I’m not ready to say you’re wrong.


31 posted on 12/22/2019 8:31:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: aquila48

I think it would be a pretty superficial acceptance of our propagandized history to think Hitler was his own man.

Then again, I do think the butterfly effect pertains where big men (and women) and history are concerned.

I guess I come out in the middle between the two of you.


32 posted on 12/22/2019 8:32:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom

Also, I think maternal instincts are largely a matter of hormones. For whatever reason, the smartest women tend to be relatively high in testosterone—which seems to somewhat dull the maternal imperative.

Very highly intelligent women have tended toward fewer marriages and children for centuries. My guess would be that that might to some degree limit the number of very highly intelligent women there are, as tests and other data seem to suggest.


33 posted on 12/22/2019 8:35:26 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Meatspace
Dissagree, "And all those babies that would have been aborted not only would have gone on to do great things but would be voting Republican."

Highly unlikely that the parent(s) who 'elected' to abort those children would have raised them to become conservatives or Republicans or even had the motivation to raise them as productive citizens.

34 posted on 12/22/2019 8:36:27 AM PST by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I prefer the lost ending to the Film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ySde4Qgsc


35 posted on 12/22/2019 8:37:00 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Nah. None of those kids would have cured cancer or contributed anything positive to the world.

They were all inconvenient little parasites who would have prevented their mamas from living their dreams.

So it’s good they’re dead. / sarc


36 posted on 12/22/2019 8:37:39 AM PST by mumblypeg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: samtheman; All

Pro-life film potential: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Bird_(1940_film)


37 posted on 12/22/2019 9:15:05 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: aquila48
If we look at history, most of the big turning points were driven by a single minded INDIVIDUALS with incredible WILL POWER - Alexander the Great, Caesar, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Napoleon, Washington, Hitler, Mao, Lenin, etc.

I would argue that those people are the results of a confluence of shaping factors, both genetic and environmental. Would an Adolph Hitler born into an intact, functional family have become a socialist obsessed with world domination? Because the influences that create people like that are so rare, I would argue that the actual individual thus shaped is not a necessary component--it could be any individual who happens to possess that rare combination of vision and drive, coupled with external factors that push them towards being someone like Trump (who is focused on solving long-standing problems and improving life) vs. someone like Hitler (who suffered a great deal of internal pain and wanted to inflict his misery on everyone). In other words, if not those individuals, then other individuals would play similar roles in history.

38 posted on 12/22/2019 9:21:07 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: polymuser; dp0622; Regulator; Kaslin; Meatspace
It's easy for scoffers to counter this with "had they survived, so many murdered babies would have been rapists, murderers, predators, parasites, Democrats..."

But that in itself is thinking like Planned Parenthood, for whom every problem on planet Earth can be effectively addressed with a suction abortion machine.

Unborn babies are not "potential" lives. They are *existing* lives --- of individuals possessing unmeasurable potential. They do have potential for good or ill, but none of them are going to amount to anything if they end up smashed in a medical waste dump.

Abortion itself coarsens us, de-personalizes us, de-humanizes us. US, not them. The more of it we tolerate, the more we as a people are a nation of murderers residing in a self-made suburb of hell.

39 posted on 12/22/2019 9:34:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Regulator

Mexicans “hate the existence of Americans”??? Which Mexicans have you been talking to exactly? The vast majority of Mexicans I have met are decent, religious, hard working people.

Its Muslims who hate the existence of Americans.


40 posted on 12/22/2019 9:34:29 AM PST by bigdaddy45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson