[GOPJ]

... morphed into probable cause of speaking to a foreign person. And that morphed into probable cause of speaking to any person who has ever spoken to a foreign person. All of this happened in secret. This slow but persistent destruction of the right to be left alone, which is ostensibly guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment, came about not only by secrecy and the absence of adversaries but also by judicial gullibility...

Historic changes are on the way... We were so close to becoming a police state ... with the 'best' of intentions.

[thinden]

we are seeing a constituional crisis play out.

4th & 6th come to mind

[TiGuy22]

Eddie Munster is right... a stopped clock is right twice a day...