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The "Face the Nation" transcript of Brennan interviewing Schiff is here.
1 posted on 12/08/2019 3:41:27 PM PST by karpov
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we’re this close to a full on Peoples Republic.


2 posted on 12/08/2019 3:43:16 PM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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So what he’s saying is only the right wing press is doing its job


3 posted on 12/08/2019 3:45:11 PM PST by SPRINK (G)
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I like the movie called “Shooter”, with Mark Wahlberg, because of what happens at the end.


4 posted on 12/08/2019 3:45:28 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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Schiff-4-brains has micturated on the Constitution
and Law.

Will the DOJ arrest him. No.
He is special, and above all others -
even able to take down an ELECTED PRESIDENT
to coverup his murders.


5 posted on 12/08/2019 3:45:32 PM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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Digging his grave deeper and deeper!


7 posted on 12/08/2019 3:47:05 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Only jews have a problem with the camps.


9 posted on 12/08/2019 3:47:24 PM PST by SpaceBar
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So according to Shiff, your rights only extend to what the liberals allow. If a few dozen, hundred, or million people get their rights trampled on, so what?


10 posted on 12/08/2019 3:49:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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Kimberly Strassel on "The Journal Editorial Report" said that the phone companies could have gone to court to resist Schiff's demand but did not. This sets a bad precedent. The executive branch can't get this kind of data on suspected terrorists without going to court but Adam Schiff can get information on fellow Congressmen without any court review.

Someone suggested that possibly the Southern District of New York supplied the data to Schiff. They are anti-Trump, but would they have access to the data?

11 posted on 12/08/2019 3:49:42 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Only the right wing objects, and the gutless republitards aint got the balls to do a damn thing about felonies committed by demonrats. I am fed the hell up with the chickenshit bastards.


13 posted on 12/08/2019 3:51:40 PM PST by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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They think they above the law that they impose on us.

Full on demagogues, the whole lot of them.


15 posted on 12/08/2019 3:54:27 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Achtung America
16 posted on 12/08/2019 3:56:49 PM PST by bray (Pray for Prresident Trump)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybXuiTrpRYM


17 posted on 12/08/2019 4:00:20 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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Sounds like a good time for President trump to release all the Phone records of Schiff, nadler, pelosi and The FAKE NEWS Press, only the Crazy Left will complain.


18 posted on 12/08/2019 4:00:44 PM PST by eyeamok
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The Democrats are always Democrats first.

Being an American is way down on their list,


23 posted on 12/08/2019 4:06:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Varying Expectations For IG Horowitz Report – The Convenient Application of “intent”……

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If Senator Lindsey Graham is correct – tomorrow the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz will release a much anticipated review, looking into how the FBI and DOJ used an application to the FISA court to investigate the Trump campaign. There are wide-ranging opinions about what exactly this report may, or may not, outline.

The IG review has been ongoing for 21 months.  This report is anticipated to be a culmination of that investigative effort.  The ‘tick-tock club’ of Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, John Solomon and various Fox pundits have promised the report will be the most devastating outline of gross FBI and DOJ misconduct in the history of IG review.

Additionally, a network of financially dependent social media voices, book writers, podcast pundits and Q-theorists collectively known as the ‘trusty plan group’, have predicted criminal indictments, wide-scale arrests and a shock to the DC system that will fracture the foundation of the administrative state and simultaneously drain the swamp.

Meanwhile the Lawfare group has been the most visible advocacy network for the current and former DOJ and FBI officials who participated in setting up and using the FISA surveillance system now under IG review.   The Lawfare group has stated the IG report will exonerate all of their pre and post election activity; validate the justification for their predicate efforts; and leave the ‘tick-tockers’ and ‘trusty planners’ having to reconcile to their stunned audiences how they interpreted all the data so incredibly wrong.

A review of the last three IG reports which brush up against the same DOJ and FBI network: (1) IG review Clinton email/FBI conduct; (2) IG review of McCabe/media leaks; and (3) IG review of James Comey conduct; shows the IG report on FISA is likely to come down somewhere in the middle.  ie. mistakes were made; poor judgements were evident; some unprofessional conduct was found; some lack of candor was identified; department policies were not followed; but no direct evidence of intentional wrongdoing was attributable to a coordinated political effort.

If prior IG reports are predictive we should see something akin to:

…Everyone collectively just happened to make identical mistakes, at the same time, in the same direction, together with all the administrative staff within all intelligence organizations… many of them were professionally trained lawyers… but no-one did anything wrong on purpose….

Remember the modern mantra for DOJ definitions of legality are all about "intent".

Defining statutory violations by the intent of the violator is specifically attributable to how President Obama, AG Eric Holder and AG Loretta Lynch changed the entire enterprise of lawful application to make outcomes arbitrary, variable, changeable to the situation.

The IRS targeting wasn’t unlawful because it wasn’t intentional.  The death of four Americans due to sketchy CIA and State Dept. operations in Benghazi was not unlawful because the risky situation wasn’t created intentionally.  Hillary Clinton’s private email server with classified information wasn’t “intentional”, etcetera – etcetera, the list is long.

The nice thing about switching to definitions of lawbreaking by “intent” is the ease in arbitrary application.  Republican targets ‘intended’ to violate laws… Democrat targets, well, not-so-much.  Fluidity is a necessary oil amid a two-tiered administrative state.

If you elevate, I mean really elevate, and look at the bigger issue inside each of the examples there’s a connective thread surrounding a purposeful shift in accountability for broken laws by focusing on “criminal intent.”

“Intent”, not consequence, is now the larger shield being applied toward excusing the action of people within institutions of government and society.  Consider:

Ah yes, Hillary Clinton was not guilty or accountable because FBI Director James Comey said they couldn’t prove intent….. But the statute doesn’t require intent… But the DOJ said ignore the statute, they require it… and so it goes.

Also see years of Inspector General internal investigations culminating in the very familiar phrase: “declined to prosecute”; yup, they all surrounded intent.

Apparently anyone who breaks the law (lies) while inside the DOJ or FBI didn’t intend to… While lawbreakers (fibbers) outside the FBI/DOJ offices are intentful sons-of-bitches.

The “intent” issue extends everywhere….

Illegal alien entry, and accountability for fraud, all downplayed because there’s no proof of intent.   Walk down a pier in San Francisco and shoot a girl in the head… your honor, my client didn’t intend to do it.  The focus on intent -a specific decision made within the administration of a modern justice system- has become a shield against consequence.

It was a “mistake”…. he/she/it made “a poor decision” etc.  A pattern of obfuscation downplaying consequence and allowing those decision-makers charged with delivering accountability to withdraw or apply the rules of law based on their individual overlay of ‘intent’.

That shift is factually visible everywhere now.

The prior IG report by Horowitz [FBI bias & investigative outcome] was fraught with the application of ‘intent’ inside the inspectors explanation of absent evidence toward bias.

 

Each of these examples does not seem to be arbitrary, but rather connected to a more consequential decision by those in power to water-down accountability and open the doors for further abuse.

If the official didn’t ‘intend’ to do wrong, or more specifically if the people in position of delivering accountability for the wrong-doing cannot find specific intent, then the action is less-than regardless of outcome.

Consider what FBI officials were doing inside the FBI regarding media-leaks, then insert the James Wolfe example here & ask yourself how could they ever hold him accountable?

Pro Tip: They didn’t.

Following along the ideological lines we can all see how a shift to ‘intent’ can become a very serious issue within a corrupt system.

Within that system, and against that purposeful filter and determination, plausible deniability becomes the construct for intentional criminal engagement.

The illegal alien voter didn’t intend to violate the law… therefore no law was violated.  The Democrats who ballot-harvested illegal alien registration didn’t intend to violate the voting integrity statute… therefore no statute was violated.  Everyone just, well, made a mistake.

Whoopsie daisy.

A corrupt official doesn’t even need to put a finger on the scales of justice, once the scales are intentionally mis-calibrated like this.

If you wonder why there is such an overall sense of anxiety, poor conduct, lack of virtue and general unease within the recent landscape…. I would deposit the likelihood all of the unnerving instability around us is being caused by this shift away from consequence based entirely on ‘intent‘.

Brazen unlawfulness and abuses are now subject to arbitrary determinations of intent.

According to the current DOJ legal proceedings Michael Flynn the outsider intended to lie… FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the insider, didn’t:

 

It’s this weird mish-mosh world where changing your party registration before you defraud your investors rob the bank might just help you out if you get caught.

From all current indications FBI Director Christopher Wray is directing his organization to spend more time filling the cracks in the dam (bias training) -trying to hold back the tide of electoral anger- than they are doing actual FBI work.  Which begs the question….

….did Bill Barr purchase scuba gear?

 

 

 


24 posted on 12/08/2019 4:07:22 PM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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This is why "the far right" objected to Schiff demanding to see unredacted grand jury testimony from the Mueller report.

If this is any indication, he can't be trusted with it. It was wise to deny it to him.

-PJ

27 posted on 12/08/2019 4:11:36 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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You want to be secure in your person, papers and effects? You’re a damn Nazi.


29 posted on 12/08/2019 4:13:54 PM PST by BusterDog
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Start disbarment proceedings on attorney, Schiff. Some ethics violations and violations of law have consequences.
30 posted on 12/08/2019 4:17:27 PM PST by Robert357
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If Schiff had his way, anyone who opposed him would be carried off to intern camps, wealth confiscated and they would be gassed and burned.


32 posted on 12/08/2019 4:23:09 PM PST by realcleanguy
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He’s saying the Constitution does not prohibit congresscritters from illegal searches and such? Hmmm.


34 posted on 12/08/2019 4:26:25 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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