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I Was Once a Socialist. Then I Saw How It Worked.
New York Times ^ | December 5, 2019 | David Brooks

Posted on 12/06/2019 7:40:47 AM PST by karpov

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To: karpov

I only read the first bits, but he should just read What Is To Be Done by Lenin and how it was almost exactly put into place. Shortage economy and all. If these absolute morons would look just a little while ago in the USSR and Poland in the 70’s and 80’s they’d get their answers


21 posted on 12/06/2019 8:08:27 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: karpov
“Capitalism creates a relentless learning system. Socialism doesn’t.”

Socialism does create a learning system. But the feedback is being sent to the Gulag or just being shot in the back of the head (or maybe "hanging yourself" in a jail cell) by one of Dear Leader's minions. Economic production and serving your fellow man is no where on the list.

22 posted on 12/06/2019 8:13:02 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
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To: AndyJackson

Who is David Brooks?

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=From%3Amarklevinshow%20David%20brooks&src=typed_query


23 posted on 12/06/2019 8:13:06 AM PST by conservative98
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To: mmichaels1970

There is bad and stupid everywhere but which system allows the bad and stupid to flourish. Socialist goods vs. capitalist goods is all the evidence one needs.


24 posted on 12/06/2019 8:14:30 AM PST by xp38
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To: karpov
Brooks discovers the Austrian School. Maybe there's some hope after all. A little time with Thomas Sowell's Knowledge and Decisions would do him wonders along these lines.
25 posted on 12/06/2019 8:19:16 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mmichaels1970
"what's the harm in taking just a little bit extra for me and my family, after all, I'm in a very important position."

This is at the crux of the reason socialism never works. On a purely unconscious, psychological level, people put themselves and their interests above those of others. You don't have to teach toddlers to be selfish, you have to teach them to share. They already know how to be selfish. It's part of human nature. That "me first" mentality is part of our sinful nature and is innate. No matter what flavor or version of socialism is concocted, it's doomed to failure, because people don't have the psychological make up to be socialists, no matter how much you try to program them into it.

26 posted on 12/06/2019 8:30:34 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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27 posted on 12/06/2019 8:32:22 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: karpov

Broken Clock...


28 posted on 12/06/2019 8:34:17 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: karpov

If you work foe the Times and have outed yourself as a non-socialist, have your resume updated.


29 posted on 12/06/2019 9:24:53 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: karpov

As expected, there is a big BUT.

“But capitalism, like all human systems, is always unbalanced one way or another. Over the last generation, capitalism has produced the greatest reduction in global income inequality in history. The downside is that low-skill workers in the U.S. are now competing with workers in Vietnam, India and Malaysia. The reduction of inequality among nations has led to the increase of inequality within rich nations, like the United States.

Also, education levels have not kept pace with technology. More people grow up with inadequate schools, disrupted families and fragmented neighborhoods. They find it harder to acquire the skills to become good capitalists. The market is effectively closed off to them.

These problems are not signs that capitalism is broken. They are signs that we need more and better capitalism. We need a massive infusion of money and reform into our education systems, from infancy through life. Human capital-building is like nutrition: It’s something you have to attend to every day. We need welfare programs that not only subsidize poor people’s consumption but also subsidize their capacity to produce.

We need worker co-ops, which build skills and represent labor at the negotiating table. We need wage subsidies and mobility subsidies, so people can afford to move to opportunity. We need tax subsidies for health care, to make it easier for people to switch jobs. We need a higher earned-income tax credit, to give the working poor financial security so they don’t get swept away amid the creative destruction. We need a carbon tax, to give everyone an incentive to reduce carbon emissions without pretending we know the best way to do it.”


30 posted on 12/06/2019 9:29:57 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: karpov; All
Patriots are reminded that all socialists in the USA who want to use taxpayer dollars to experiment with socialist fantasies, fantasies that have probably repeatedly been proven not to work anyway, must do the following from related threads.

First, other than mainly the US Mail Service (1.8.7), consider that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific powers to care for the people. So social spending programs cannot be established by the federal government without the Constitution's Article V state supermajority first amending the Constitution to give the feds specific new powers to establish such a program.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had left the care of the people to the states, not the feds.

”[…] the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

Sadly, as a consequence of parents not making sure that their children are being taught the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood, nearly all federal domestic social spending programs are now scandalously based on stolen state powers and state revenues imo, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So socialists must do the following if they want to experiment with their socioeconomic experiments while protecting and defending the Constitution.

Socialists must first find, and then get elected to a state government, again, not the federal government, whose legal citizen majority voters are willing to risk their tax dollars for such experiments, and then exercise 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state powers try to make their ideas work.

Justice Brandeis had put it this way about the "laboratories of democracy," the unique powers of the sovereign states to serve the people, depending on what the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.

"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose [emphasis added], serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” —Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.

(Note that constitutional limits on states as laboratories of democracy is that states cannot establish privileged / protected classes or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, and must maintain a constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government.)

So why are post-17th Amendment (17A) ratification federal career lawmakers now providing vote-winning (hint) social spending programs well beyond the mail service since the states have never given the feds the express constitutional power to tax and spend for such services?

Using inappropriate words like “concept” and “implicit,” the excerpt below from Wickard v. Filburn (Wickard) shows what was left of the defense of 10A-protected state sovereignty by the last of the state sovereignty-respecting majority justices in United States v. Butler, FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices later ignoring the reasonable Butler interpretation of 10A when they treasonously decided Wickard in Congress’s favor imo.

Consider that the states now struggle to find the revenues to exercise their unique 10A duties to care for their respective citizens because the corrupt federal government keeps stealing state revenues in the form of unconstitutional taxes according to the Gibbons excerpt above, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government…

Patriots must elect a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to fully support PDJT's vision for MAGA, now KAG, but will also do the following.

New patriot lawmakers also need to promise to work with PDJT to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, and also surrender state powers that the post-17A ratification feds have been stealing from the states back to the states.

Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped then each state will ultimately find new revenues to experiment with its own social spending programs, depending on what the legal majority citizen voters of a given state are trying to achieve.

And to make such changes permanent, patriots need to further support PDJT in working with the states to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)


31 posted on 12/06/2019 10:37:28 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: karpov
Socialist planned economies — the common ownership of the means of production — interfere with price and other market signals in a million ways. They suppress or eliminate profit motives that drive people to learn and improve.

Bradford and the Pilgrims figured this out within three years of being Americans.

They tried socialism for two years, it failed.

Bradford said, everyone gets their own land and they must work it, and they get to keep whatever they produce.

After that, that had an event, and it was THANKS GIVING TO GOD FOR THEIR BOUNTY.

Capitalism worked, socialism failed, look at early America (1620-1623), Venezuela {today}, Cuba {since 1959} and Russia { since they discovered how to make vodka out of anything}.

END OF STORY

32 posted on 12/06/2019 11:26:03 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: Rummyfan

David Brooks on islam terrorism? They mentioned hillary’s speech and then his view on terrorism.

>>>>>>>>>Terrorism is not produced by Islam. It’s produced by feelings of alienation<<<<<<<<<

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2016/03/30/david-brooks-least-trump-crushed-dying-husk-reaganism-gop

By Tim Graham | March 30, 2016 8:14 AM EDT

CORNISH: David, this is her third foreign policy speech, actually. Get the sense that she considers this a strength? Should she?

BROOKS: Yeah, I think her speech was quite good. I thought Kasich and Sanders were fine. The story to me is Cruz. I have been so repulsed by Donald Trump I’ve forgotten how ugly Ted Cruz can be. And his approach of policing Islamic neighborhoods is about as stupid as it’s possible to be.

Terrorism is not produced by Islam. It’s produced by feelings of alienation, a feeling that you’re being discriminated against, the target of ethnic cleansing or ethnic profiling. And Ted Cruz’s line is the exact thing that causes terrorism. And its’ - the only saving grace is it’s impossible to believe that he actually believes what he says. He’s just willing to say anything to sound like Donald Trump and win the office.


33 posted on 12/06/2019 12:52:55 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: aquila48
"These problems are not signs that capitalism is broken. They are signs that we need more and better capitalism."

You echo GK Chesterton who wrote, " “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few capitalists.”

34 posted on 12/06/2019 12:56:39 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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