I've met Joel due to his ownership of the Deltaplex. Boxing, and MMA events I've attended there.
At the last boxing event I was outside moving people in the long line who already had tickets to another line to get past the ticket sales counters.
One of the temp security guards asked if I was the owner of Blue's Gym. He got that idea probably because I was wearing a Blue's shirt and was coming and going in and out of the venue, and handing out ring side VIP table tickets to some folks.
At a previous event I was walking with Dino Newville. We both were wearing Blue's Gym shirts. One of the security people ask Dino who I was. Dino replied, "He's my body guard."
Havent seen Dino in years. Used to drink beers with him every week. A nut but a good nut. Joel is a good guy, but he will not last.