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In Hong Kong, It's US vs. China Now
Townhall.com ^ | December 3, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 12/03/2019 5:30:15 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/03/2019 5:30:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Why is this our fight ?


2 posted on 12/03/2019 5:39:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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With any other president I would say yes.President Trump would not do that.Tariffs baby,tariffs.Seems to me that china has not stomped on the protests in HK for fear of that very thing.We got them by the balls and they know it.We will see what happens.


3 posted on 12/03/2019 5:40:54 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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[Are we willing to impose sanctions on Beijing, such as we have on Venezuela, Iran and Vladimir Putin’s Russia? ]


It’s not such a big step, given that until Nixon’s opening to China, the US had a trade embargo on the country.


4 posted on 12/03/2019 5:41:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes


5 posted on 12/03/2019 5:43:20 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes, back when “Made in Japan” was what we got upset about.


6 posted on 12/03/2019 5:44:08 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; All

This is our fight because the heart and soul of freedom is at stake. Our own country is under assault by the very same kinds of forces that the children of Hong Kong are struggling to destroy.
The Democrat party is not different in any unique respect from the Chinese Communist Party. Given the kind of absolute power the CCP enjoys our own tyrants in the DNC would act no differently.
We stand in solidarity with the children of Hong Kong and war against the same enemy.


7 posted on 12/03/2019 5:49:12 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: Kaslin

Just wait until we start to see a similar movement to ‘Divest From South Africa’ hit social media. There is a Kyle Bass interview recently talking about how the Chinese financed construction of the Uyghur camps with bond offerings in the U.S. and the World Bank, done by Xinjiang Province, where the camps are located.


8 posted on 12/03/2019 5:52:16 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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Bottom line: It is impressive that freedom loving people in Hong Kong are inspired by America, but it should be made clear to them America is not willing to sacrifice blood or even material treasure to secure their well being. Hong Kong will be subdued and there will be a deal on tariffs. The communist party will remain in control in China for the foreseeable future. Sorry but that is political reality. The majority of the Chinese people are not willing to revolt or force change. The Chinese should not look to the West for their salvation. Even the Pope signed a vile deal with the communists selling out his own Catholics who had sacrificed mightily for their faith.


9 posted on 12/03/2019 5:52:27 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Who said it was? If we had passed a resolution condemning Hitler in 1933 would you have said the same thing?

Uyghur Concentration Camps ARE concentration camps. Hong Kong was the canary in the coal mine for what is to come.


10 posted on 12/03/2019 5:54:05 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Kaslin

the best we can/should do is offer them citizenship ..
and not the dual kind..


11 posted on 12/03/2019 5:54:37 AM PST by ßuddaßudd ((>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Louis Foxwell

Send your sons...


12 posted on 12/03/2019 5:59:15 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

[Send your sons...]


Why would imposing tariffs on China require sending anyone anywhere?


13 posted on 12/03/2019 6:15:59 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Imposing tariffs is just the first step.

Maybe America should be more concerned about Cuba. I read that Cuba is meddling in politics just south of our border...


14 posted on 12/03/2019 6:31:39 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Kaslin

Each party is doing what it can on the way to the inevitable blood bath.


15 posted on 12/03/2019 6:38:15 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

[Imposing tariffs is just the first step.]


The first step towards a much-needed total embargo. We’re not going to war with China unless they actually invade a place that’s not part of China. This is the usual diplomatic jousting that occurs in peacetime, our version of their harassment of US companies present in their domestic market.

War will happen only when Chinese troops initiate hostilities across an international border. And even that is likely to be a limited clash, unless they do something on the scale of Pearl Harbor that kills thousands of Americans, or worse.


16 posted on 12/03/2019 6:38:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Kaslin
We (the US) don't have a dog in that fight. Sanctions can be placed, asylum offered (assuming China DOES pull a Tiennamen), but we can't be sending military. That latter aspect has to be made clear.

Taiwan is probably watching what is happening, because they would potentially be next.

17 posted on 12/03/2019 6:50:00 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Hey, Pat, (AKA Mr. I told you so), didn’t the Chinese sign an agreement with the British regarding the transfer of Hong Kong to them? Something like they were to maintain Hong Kong’s independence etc. Something like that?

I guess what I’m getting at is, don’t you think the rest of the free world has a dog in this fight too?

The protesters should know their boundaries. THe USA is NOT asking or expecting the rebels to protest to the point of wanting Hong Kong independence.

In short, this is not Hungary....


18 posted on 12/03/2019 6:53:30 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: LRoggy

South Africa’s impact on our economy was a “Fart in a windstorm” compared to China’s impact.


19 posted on 12/03/2019 6:57:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nikos1121

Ike sent “advisors” into a similar situation in SE Asia.


20 posted on 12/03/2019 7:17:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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