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Pope Francis, 'The Song of Roland' and Imam Al-Tayeb
Gatestone Institute ^ | December 1, 2019 at 5:00 am | Giulio Meotti

Posted on 12/01/2019 6:47:59 AM PST by robowombat

Pope Francis, 'The Song of Roland' and Imam Al-Tayeb by Giulio Meotti December 1, 2019 at 5:00 am

"I have a family of Christians who do not want to convert, what do we do with them?", a jihadist in Iraq asked his superior.

According a new report by Aid to the Church in Need, "over 245 million Christians [are] living in places where they experience high levels of persecution," 4,305 Christians were killed for their faith from 2017 to 2019, and 1,847 churches and other Christian buildings were attacked in the same period. The report states that "within a generation, Iraq's Christian population has shrunk by more than 90 percent."

Christians in Burkina Faso are now being forced to "flee, convert or die".... British Baroness Cox recently discovered, on a fact-finding mission to Nigeria, mass murders of Christians by Muslim extremists (more than 1,000 Christians killed since January and more than 6,000 since 2015).

"The astonishing ignorance of these basic teachings on the part of Pope Francis and his advisors doesn't make for a more harmonious world: it makes for a more dangerous one. Those who buy into their fantasy view... are in for a rude surprise when they encounter the real thing". — William Kilpatrick, Crisis, September 25, 2019.

In Cyprus, Turks have converted 78 churches into mosques. Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan himself has called to convert -- again -- Hagia Sophia into a mosque.

The West and its religious leaders need to stop repenting and face reality. For the Pope, the head of more than a billion Catholics, it means using his dialogue with Islam to challenge it and ask its leaders, such as Al-Tayeb, to stop threatening Christians. Now, please, in 2019, not in 1209, at the time of the "Song of Roland".

The West and its religious leaders need to stop repenting and face reality. For Pope Francis, the head of more than a billion Catholics, it means using his dialogue with Islam to challenge it and ask its leaders, such as Al Azhar Grand Imam Ahmed Al-Tayeb, to stop threatening Christians. Pictured: The Pope and Al-Tayeb in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates on February 4, 2019. (Photo by Francois Nel/Getty Images) Two recent incidents in the same week highlighted Pope Francis's upside-down vision about a religion.

Recalling a scene from the famous 11th-century poem "The Song of Roland", in which Christians in Spain threatened Muslims "to choose between baptism or death", Pope Francis recently said, "We must beware of fundamentalist groups; each (religion) has their own. Fundamentalism is a plague and all religions have some fundamentalist first cousin". A few days before that, Pope Francis received the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed Al-Tayeb.

In the first incident, the head of the Catholic Church criticized Christians for converting Muslims ten centuries ago, and implied that every religion has its own faults. In the second incident, the Pope met a religious leader who still threatens death to Muslims who convert to Christianity. "Apostasy is a crime," Imam Al-Tayeb has explained; "an apostate should be asked to repent, and if he does not he should be killed". At least the Egyptian religious leader was up front about it: in the Middle East and North Africa, 14 of the region's 20 countries criminalize apostasy. In addition, Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen -- all Islamic countries -- recommend the death penalty for "atheism". In Algeria, Muslims who convert to Christianity are being persecuted to this day.

"The astonishing ignorance of these basic teachings [about Islam] on the part of Pope Francis and his advisors doesn't make for a more harmonious world: it makes for a more dangerous one", wrote William Kilpatrick in the US magazine Crisis. "Those who buy into their fantasy view of Islam are in for a rude surprise when they encounter the real thing".

The regrettable fact is that in many Muslim-majority countries, the Christian clergy are regularly being murdered by extremists. Just recently, three Christian clergymen have been slaughtered. Pastor David Mokoni was killed by Boko Haram during an attack on his church in Cameroon. A South Korean evangelical pastor, Jinwook Kim, was murdered in Turkey. And a Catholic priest, Housib Petoyan, who belonged to Syria's Armenian minority, was murdered by the Islamic State. According a new report by Aid to the Church in Need, "over 245 million Christians [are] living in places where they experience high levels of persecution," 4,305 Christians were killed for their faith from 2017 to 2019, and 1,847 churches and other Christian buildings were attacked in the same period. The report states that "within a generation, Iraq's Christian population has shrunk by more than 90 percent."

Christians in Burkina Faso are now being forced to "flee, convert or die". In Nigeria, Boko Haram is holding a student, Leah Sharibu, captive for her refusal to convert to Islam. British Baroness Cox recently discovered, on a fact-finding mission to Nigeria, mass murders of Christians by Muslim extremists (more than 1,000 Christians killed since January and more than 6,000 since 2015). In Mosul, Iraq, when Christians were faced the choice of conversion to Islam, fines or death; they fled their historic city. "I have a family of Christians who do not want to convert, what do we do with them?", a jihadist in Iraq asked his superior.

The French magazine Le Point in November 2016 told of the ordeal of one Iraqi Christian family:

Ismail Matti was 14 years old when IS entered his town of Bartalla, east of Mosul. He was waiting for relatives to flee with his sick mother, Jandar Nasi, but no one came.

So they tried to leave but were turned away twice by jihadists, who put them in prison in Mosul.

"There were a lot of Shiites in the cell next to ours, they took one, shot him in the head and shot his body in front of us," he says.

"They warned my mother that the same fate was waiting for us if we refused to convert, so we converted," recalls Ismail, now hosted in a church-run shelter in Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.

In Egypt, the country of Imam Al-Tayeb, lived a Coptic Christian named Bahgat Zakhar. "Repent, infidel. Convert and save yourself", one of the jihadists threatened him, pressing the gun to Zakhar's head and forcing him to his knees. Zakhar shook his head so they shot him.

The same violence has taken place throughout Syria. "One Friday trucks appeared in the village with heavily armed and bearded strangers who did not know anyone in the village," the human rights lawyer Nina Shea wrote in 2014, quoting the Dutch journalist Martin Janssen:

"They began to drive through the village with a loud speaker broadcasting the message that their village was now part of an Islamic emirate and Muslim women were henceforth to dress in accordance with the provisions of the Islamic sharia. Christians were given four choices. They could convert to Islam and renounce their 'idolatry.' If they refused they were allowed to remain on condition that they pay the jizya. This is a special tax that non-Muslims under Islamic law must pay for 'protection.' For Christians who refused there remained two choices: they could leave behind all their property or they would be slain. The word that was used for the latter in Arabic (dhabaha) refers to the ritual slaughter of sacrificial animals."

When ISIS took the Assyrian villages in Syria's Khabur Valley in 2015, "everyone asked us to convert to Islam", a Christian witness recounted. In the Syrian Christian town of Maaloula, Islamic terrorists executed -- in front of their parents -- three Greek Catholic Christians who refused to convert to Islam. "They shot Michel, his nephew Sarkis and his cousin Antoine", Marc Fromager, director of "Aid to the Church in Need" in France, disclosed.

Meriam Yahya Ibrahim, who now lives in New Hampshire with her family, was pregnant when she was arrested in Sudan in 2013 and later sentenced to death, for refusing to renounce her Christian faith.

An Iraqi Christian, Adel, with his wife Fidaa and their three children, were captured by an ISIS "emir":

"He entered the women's barracks, he took out his sword and put it on my daughter's throat: 'convert', he ordered my wife, otherwise I beheaded her'", Adel recalled. "Fidaa agreed to convert, and instead of killing her, the emir decides to marry the daughter. The mother protested that the girl was only 8 years old. The Islamists threatened to rape the girl on the spot. Adel jumped up: 'I told them that I wanted to convert and keep my family'".

The odyssey of Iraqi Christians is full of these testimonies.

In Egypt, Christian girls have been forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslims.

Not only Christians are converted, but also their holy sites. The Umayyad Mosque in Damascus, visited by Pope John Paul II, had been a Christian church before being converted to a mosque. In Cyprus, "In the span of three decades under Turkish control, more than 530 churches and monasteries have been pillaged, vandalized, or destroyed in the northern area..."

"About 133 churches, chapels and monasteries have been converted to military storage facilities, stables and night-clubs. Seventy-eight churches have been converted to mosques, and dozens more are used as military facilities, medical storage facilities, or stockyards or hay barns..."

Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan himself has called to convert -- again -- Hagia Sophia into a mosque. Hagia Sophia was the foremost cathedral in Christendom for 900 years before becoming one of Islam's greatest mosques for 500 years until 1935, when it was converted to a museum. The Great Mosque of Aleppo was once the Cathedral of Saint Helena.

This tragedy is not even new. "Before the Crusades, Muslims compelled Christians in the Middle East and Africa to convert, be slaughtered or accept a second-class existence", the journalist Melanie Phillips noted in The Times.

"Religious liberty, the core value of western civilisation, is being destroyed across large parts of the world. Yet the West, myopically denying this religious war, is averting its gaze from the destruction of its foundational creed in the Middle East and the attempt to eradicate it elsewhere. It is therefore no surprise that, faced with jihadist barbarities abroad and cultural inroads at home, the free world is proving so ineffectual".

The persecution of Christians in Islamic lands is an open secret. Hunted, enslaved, forcibly converted as a group to Islam, killed for their religion and their property, their places of worship destroyed: in many countries, this is their reality. They are simply meeting the same fate as their ancestors. According to Professor Philip Jenkins, in his book, The Lost History of Christianity:

"In the Sixth century, there were more than 500 bishops, successors of church fathers such as Cyprian of Carthage and Augustine of Hippo, ministering in what today are Libya, Algeria, and Tunisia; barely two centuries later not one was left, their churches having vanished in the face of the Muslim invasion".

Christianity has lost most of its ancient cradle. The French orientalist Jean-Paul Roux wrote:

"The Muslim world was created on lands that were Mazdean or Buddhist, such as Iran and India, but even more so on Christian lands, Asia Minor, Syria and Palestine, Egypt and Nubia, North Africa, and has converted them in whole or in large part".

Of all these areas, Christians have been able to take back from Islam only Sicily, Spain and Crimea. There is not one single Muslim country converted by force to Christianity and never reclaimed by Islam. The opposite has happened in dozens of cases.

Pope Francis is probably right that ten centuries ago, Christians converted Muslims to their faith. Twenty years ago, Pope John Paul II already apologized for the Church's past. The West and its religious leaders need to stop repenting and face reality. For the Pope, the head of more than a billion Catholics, it means using his dialogue with Islam to challenge it and ask its leaders, such as Al-Tayeb, to stop threatening Christians. Now, please, in 2019, not in 1209, at the time of the "Song of Roland".

Giulio Meotti, Cultural Editor for Il Foglio, is an Italian journalist and author.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Syria
KEYWORDS: antipope; homosexualagenda; popefrancis; romancatholicism

1 posted on 12/01/2019 6:47:59 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
the famous 11th-century poem "The Song of Roland"

In the broad context, Roland is a about how the Muslims conquered Spain and removed it from Christendom. Charles Martel of France blocked the Muslims in 714 and kept them in Spain. Charlemagne of France and his paladins (including Roland) continued to fight the Muslims and kept France Christian. Centuries later, the Muslims were expelled from Spain and it became a Christian land again.

Most Popes would be glad of all of this. Francis seems saddened by it.

2 posted on 12/01/2019 7:07:10 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

IIRC, doesn’t “Roland” have the unintentionally longest death scene in literature?


3 posted on 12/01/2019 7:24:14 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: robowombat

Pope Francis by his continuing social engineering pontificating and attempts to equalize the mono theistic claims that Islam honors the same Judeo Christian deity. Is only encouraging the continuing attacks and murders of African and Asian Catholics as well as attacks elsewhere including Russia, France, even California and destruction of their churches. by Islamic followers.

This Pope by decrying the sale and use of arms which Christian’s could use to defend themselves or warn the faithful not to proselytize or be “fundamental” to discourage conversions. are used by Islamists because they appear to support Islam’s mono theistic claims which is the way Islamists interpret the Pope’s remarks.

Those atrocities are seemingly supported by Francis’s refusal to condemn or refute those theological Islamic claims Our Creator authorizes murder, deceit and deceptions are to be used while committing these atrocities becomes the unintended result..


4 posted on 12/01/2019 7:33:37 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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To: robowombat

Bump


5 posted on 12/01/2019 7:44:04 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: All

is the Pope Catholic?..No.


6 posted on 12/01/2019 7:51:11 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: robowombat

North Africa and the Middle East were all Christian territories. Remember that Augustine was from Roman Libya. Within only a few years of Mohammed’s death Muslims had conquered all of that and had pushed all the way into France. They took the Holy Land, and the Balkans, and eventually pushed all the way to Vienna. They had turned the Mediterranean into a Muslim lake.

All of the territories they now hold were conquered and converted by the sword. Which means all muslim territories are illegitimate. No muslim territory is legitimate.


7 posted on 12/01/2019 8:15:56 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Christians need to be armed ! Muslims are militant in
conquering and eliminating them.Where’s the outrage in
genocide of Christians.Remember the Armenians?The Barbary
Pirates(until President Jefferson stopped them)?


8 posted on 12/01/2019 8:31:52 AM PST by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(20 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: skinny old man

I think people are only now starting to understand what happened to the Armenians (and Assyrians, and Greeks) at the hands of the Turks. People didn’t understand “jihadism”, they have had something like a mental block that has kept them from seeing. But they are beginning to see, and they had better. Jihadism isn’t a “bug” in Islam, it is a continuously recurring theme.


9 posted on 12/01/2019 8:35:56 AM PST by marron
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To: skinny old man

New movie coming out on Netflex December 20th called “The Two Popes”about Benedict and current pope.


10 posted on 12/01/2019 8:38:44 AM PST by Engedi (ui)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“...the Muslims were expelled ...”

Gee. Expelled...and it became a Christian land again.

History is full of simple solutions, when one takes the time to look.

“...Francis seems saddened by it...”

Frauds usually are.


12 posted on 12/01/2019 9:23:05 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marron

In 1920 George Horton published ‘the Blight of Asia’ about the systematic destruction of Christian communities in the Near East. It can be purchased as a new paperback from aAmazon for $6 and some change. Here are some comments by the author Mr. Horton. This story has been easily available for almost a century but ignored:

THE editor of a great Paris journal once remarked that he attributed the extraordinary success of his publication to the fact that he had discovered that each man had at least one story to tell. I have been for many years in the Near East—about thirty in all—and have watched the gradual and systematic extermination of Christians and Christianity in that region, and I believe it my duty to tell that grim tale, and to turn the light upon the political rivalries of the Western World, that have made such a fearful tragedy possible. Though I have served for the major part of time as an American consular officer, I am no longer acting in that capacity, and have no further connection with the United States Government.

None of the statements, which I make, therefore, has any official weight, nor have I in any way drawn upon State Department records or sources of information. I write strictly in my capacity as a private citizen, drawing my facts from my own observations, and from the testimony of others whom I quote. I was in Athens in July, 1908, when, at the instigation of the Young Turks’ “Committee of Union and Progress” the Saloniki army revolted and demanded the immediate putting into effect of the Constitution of 1876, which had become a dead letter, and I noted the reaction produced upon Greece by that apparently progressive move.

I was in Saloniki shortly after and witnessed the sad awakening of the non-Mussulman elements of that part of the Balkans to the fact that the much vaunted “Constitution” meant no liberty for them, but rather suppression, suffering and ultimate extinction. I was in Smyrna in May of 1917, when Turkey severed relations with the United States, and I received the oral and written statements of native-born American eye-witnesses of the vast and incredibly horrible Armenian massacres of 1915-16—some of which will be here given for the first time; I personally observed and otherwise confirmed the outrageous treatment of the Christian population of the Smyrna vilayet, both during the Great War, and before its outbreak.

I returned to Smyrna later and was there up until the evening of September 11, 1922, on which date the city was set on fire by the army of Mustapha Kemal, and a large part of its population done to death, and I witnessed the development of that Dantesque tragedy, which possesses few, if any parallels in the history of the world.

One object of writing this book is to make the truth known concerning the very significant events and to throw the light on an important period during which colossal crimes have been committed against the human race, with Christianity losing ground in Europe and America as well as in Africa and the Near East. Another object is to give the church people of the United States the opportunity of deciding whether they wish to continue pouring millions of dollars, collected by contributions small and great, into Turkey for the purpose of supporting schools, which no longer permit the Bible to be read or Christ to be taught; whether, in fact, they are not doing more harm than good to the Christian cause and name, by sustaining institutions which have accepted such a compromise!

Another object is to show that the destruction of Smyrna was but the closing act in a consistent program of exterminating Christianity throughout the length and breadth of the old Byzantine Empire; the expatriation of an ancient Christian civilization, which in recent years had begun to take on growth and rejuvenation spiritually, largely as a result of the labors of American missionary teachers. Their admirable institutions, scattered all ever Turkey, which have cost the people of the united States between fifty million and eighty million dollars, have been, with some exceptions closed, or irreparably damaged, and their thousands of Christian teachers and pupils butchered or dispersed.


13 posted on 12/01/2019 11:42:27 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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