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The Trayvon Hoax Shines a Light on the 'Fake News' Industry
American Thinker.com ^ | November 27, 2019 | Brian C. Joondeph

Posted on 11/27/2019 6:48:42 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: fproy2222
Got to have the words just right to be legal.
I think there are simular documents in other states.

It appears you are right.

I could not find 'corporation papers' for the Wesleyan denomination; but I DID find this:

https://www.startchurch.com/

I'd bet all this stuff was NOT need back before the IRS and LAWYERS and other politician types got involved!

21 posted on 11/28/2019 3:47:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
Here's some things to add from someone who was closer to the environment. The night before, there was a mass shooting (four or so deaths?) on Cleveland's east side. Mass shootings were very rare in Cleveland. Cleveland's east side is heavily-concentrated with the black population. The west side (where Travon was) is more diverse, majority being white. There was understandable concern that if shootings extended into the west side, and blacks were involved, there would be absolute uncontrollable chaos.

Where Trayvon was is a potential flashpoint. Large, diverse elementary school, park, rec center, popular commuter rail station, are all in close proximity. Incredibly stupid that there's no police presence where the shooting happened, especially that day. So, when a dispatch call came in that a large black male was waving a gun around, the patrolmen got there fast, ready to use their guns.

As far as we know, their hasn't been much if any attempt to find out who gave Treyvon that authentic looking toy gun with the markings removed and encouraged him to act like a thug in the park with it.

22 posted on 11/28/2019 4:04:42 AM PST by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: Elsie

Where do you get the ashes for Ash Wednesday?


23 posted on 11/28/2019 6:21:49 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Elsie
Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do they believe that Christ is the Son of God and was sent to become man, then took all of our sin upon himself and accepted our rightful punishment that we need not do so? That "whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life"?

If they believe, yes, they are Christians. With some strange beliefs on the side, like their version of Heaven. and special underclothing.

If they don't, they're not.

24 posted on 11/28/2019 6:50:33 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Elsie

Elsie, we have both been missing the internal reason for the incorporation. It has been right in front of us all the time.
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“being desirous of forming a corporation for the purpose of

acquiring,
holding and
disposing of Church or religious society property,

for the benefit of religion,
for works of charity and
for public worship,

under and pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 3, Title 19, of the Compiled Laws of Utah, 1917, on “Churches and Religious Societies,””


25 posted on 11/28/2019 9:03:36 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222

From the palm leaves the week before.


26 posted on 11/29/2019 3:51:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JimRed

It sounds they can ‘believe’ anything else as well as the basic thing you mentioned here and still be a ‘christian’.

Hell; we don’t give ABORTIONists this luxury!


27 posted on 11/29/2019 3:54:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
acquiring,
holding and
disposing of Church or religious society property,

I didn't miss it. Maybe you've not noticed the priority of the words of the listing.


Why didn't you include the LAST sentence of that paragraph?
Are you trying to turn a truth into a lie?
 
 
Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, 
without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society,
to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.
 
 
Mormonism's 'power & authority' seems to lie entirely in the hands of those at the top of the food chain.
Wesleyans can at least VOTE on important matters that pertain to our denomination.

28 posted on 11/29/2019 4:06:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I think about this kind of thing when I hear of a congregation that wants to break from its parent denomination and there is a legal battle over who owns the building. Or who has to finish paying for the building.

If you want to leave the Church, the building belongs to the Church through the corporate arm.

I was watching a video on the transportation portion of the welfare system. Instead of getting by with donated hand me down trucks that are starting to cost more than replacing them, because of good money management they are able to help the employees at the truck plant have a job by buying new. And the maintenance department is top rate. Buy new and maintain, good stewardship of God’s money.


29 posted on 11/29/2019 5:23:05 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Elsie

“From the palm leaves the week before”

Shouldn’t that be the year before, not the week before?

Ash Wednesday is Wednesday, February 26th, 2020

Palm Sunday is Sunday, April 5, 2020


30 posted on 11/29/2019 5:37:56 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222

correct


31 posted on 11/29/2019 11:03:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222

A need for correction is what happens when my words are used and not those from a better source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday


32 posted on 11/29/2019 11:08:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222

“Ash Wednesday” is NOT found in Scripture, it’s something Rome came up with and some Protestants thought it was such a good idea they still do it; too.

I guess kinda like ‘covenants’ that are not found in Mormon scripture; either.


33 posted on 11/29/2019 11:11:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nobody in particular
I was visiting Long Island a cupla years ago, and went into NYC to do touristy things, and see the "Book of Mormon" on Broadway. Very funny! Screenplay from the writers of South Park.

Will go see it again when it comes the Buell Theatre in Denver this year.

34 posted on 11/29/2019 11:17:16 AM PST by SGCOS
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To: Elsie

We do not follow the custom.
I found it in the back of my mom’s Methods hymnal.


35 posted on 11/29/2019 11:37:47 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222
There's hope for you yet!

; ^ )

36 posted on 11/29/2019 5:10:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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