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US meat supply riddled with feces, doctors claim ... bid to wipe fecal matter from our food
Daily Mail ^ | April 22, 2019 | Mia De Graaf Health Editor for dailymail.com and dailymail.com Reporter

Posted on 11/14/2019 4:47:54 PM PST by Jyotishi

Complete title: US meat supply is riddled with feces, doctors claim in a lawsuit against the government in a bid to wipe fecal matter from our food

The government maintains a 'zero tolerance' policy on feces in food

The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine says that only applies to 'visible' fecal matter

They filed a lawsuit against the USDA on Tuesday calling for tighter regulations 

The US meat supply is riddled with fecal matter, a new lawsuit against the government claims.

While the government maintains a 'zero tolerance' policy on feces in food, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine says that only applies to 'visible' fecal matter.

They say the rise in E. coli outbreaks linked to meat is evidence that invisible traces of fecal matter are slipping through the net and into Americans' kitchens and stomachs.

The North American Meat Institute, which represents meat packers and processors, insists E. coli is not exclusively linked to feces. ('A swab of phones and keyboards would likely find E. coli, but that doesn't mean there is 'poop' on your phone,' they wrote).

But the Physicians Committee does not agree, filing a lawsuit last Tuesday -- the latest in its eight-year battle to wipe feces from the meat supply.  

While the government maintains a 'zero tolerance' policy on feces in food, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine says that only applies to 'visible' fecal matter

The Committee's vendetta began in 2011, when they conducted a study on 120 chicken products sold at 15 chains in 10 US cities. They found 48 percent of chicken had fecal matter that hadn't been weeded out.  

In last week's lawsuit, they say that proportion has risen. 

They do not provide new study data to back it up, but they say a change in how chicken is processed...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: april2019; chatforum; disease; doctor; ecoli; environment; fakenews; feces; food; health; kitchen; lawsuit; meat; oldnews; paganism; pcrm; usda; veganterrorism
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To: sanjuanbob

We don’t need no dark sarcasm..


41 posted on 11/14/2019 5:54:04 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: setter

I don’t know about the small Mom and Pop neighborhood slaughter/processing plants. But I’ve worked for 2.3rds of the majors over the years ie. Smithfield, IBP, Tyson, Routh, Swift etc. etc. and you could eat off the floor.

I’ve been through these facilities top to bottom and I have absolutely no problem eating any meat from any of the major’s PERIOD!

I have been in several dozen different plants over the years and have never seen a vet shut one down. Occasionally they’ll be excess condensation for example or some accumulated dust on an overhead beam something real minor and they hold the cut/kill for an hour or so while it is corrected but that’s about it.

BTW the old adage about hot dogs being lips, tit’s and a$$holes is an old wives tale. Maybe 70 years ago but not today. Hot dogs are made from pork, beef and sometimes chicken “trimmings” It’s all 80-90% lean and the pork and beef usually comes from the cheek and jowl area.


42 posted on 11/14/2019 5:56:02 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: MD Expat in PA

No wonder. The PETA connection. Those people wind up causing more cruelty than they stop.
https://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/


43 posted on 11/14/2019 6:01:49 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: traderrob6

My brother has been an Ops Manager in probably a dozen processing plants over the past thirty years.

His plants, albeit small specialty plants, have insane quality practices and equipment.

Not only would I eat anything produced there, I would eat stuff off the floor. Well, not really. But everything they produce.


44 posted on 11/14/2019 6:02:07 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: traderrob6

Hey, I’ve always wanted to know:
WHAT DO COMPANIES DO WITH THE FAT THEY TAKE?
Skinless breasts for instance- where does that skin and fat go?
It’s never listed as an ingredient of anything.


45 posted on 11/14/2019 6:02:13 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Jyotishi

Oddly enough, people don’t seem to be dropping dead of fecal poisoning that we’re supposed to believe saturates our meat. I don’t know how much crap is in our food, but this article is full of it.


46 posted on 11/14/2019 6:03:24 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Jyotishi

Vegan doctors no doubt.


47 posted on 11/14/2019 6:04:13 PM PST by Brilliant (David E. Peterson)
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To: MD Expat in PA

The only fecal matter is from our vegetables coming from south of the border. Seriously, how would meat be contaminated except during the slaughter and processing by some bozo who doesn’t wash his hands? No. Not going to happen in the USA. I know of what I speak.


48 posted on 11/14/2019 6:04:30 PM PST by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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To: Jyotishi

Ok, but EPSTEIN DIDN’T COMMIT SUICIDE.


49 posted on 11/14/2019 6:13:33 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ EPSTEIN WAS MURDERED)
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To: mrsmith

WHAT DO COMPANIES DO WITH THE FAT THEY TAKE?
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what an intriguing question. Never even thought about it before.

Personally, I save all the fat and skin, render the fat (both chicken & beef) and make crackling from the chicken skin. Improves all gravies and the chicken or beef fat is superior to butter, ghee, or oil for sauteing in many sauces and rice dishes.

But you’re right: I’ve never seen either on an ingredient list.

Did a search and came up empty. Maybe it goes into pet food.


50 posted on 11/14/2019 6:51:48 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Jyotishi

I stopped eating chicken a long time ago, it’s strictly beef or fish now for me.


51 posted on 11/14/2019 6:56:01 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: reformedliberal

Well!

It’s flummoxed me for years.
I like the skin and fat on my chicken parts. Chicken is “dry” without them IMO.

The processors must be able to make more money using chicken fat and skin somewhere else or they wouldn’t remove it.
Maybe “pot pies”... but I’ve never found out for sure.

That’s why I asked somone “in the know”...


52 posted on 11/14/2019 6:57:21 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

It is sold.

Rendered processed dried.

Crude fat crude protien


53 posted on 11/14/2019 6:57:33 PM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

What products does it end up in, and how can it be more profitable there?
I can’t see it (but I’m not in the biz).


54 posted on 11/14/2019 7:05:06 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SpaceBar
We are force-fed psychological feces on a daily basis.

You betcha.

55 posted on 11/14/2019 7:12:45 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: mrsmith

Pet food, perhaps. Cats need a lot of fat. My girl loves her Friskies “Gravy Lovers” chicken and turkey.


56 posted on 11/14/2019 7:17:27 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: M. Thatcher

They are PETA . Anybody that posts their crap is a leftist propagandist.


57 posted on 11/14/2019 7:20:06 PM PST by Varda
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To: Jyotishi

Won’t affect me none. I stopped eating cows since I been talkin’ to God and told him I aint eatin cows no more. Then there’s this cow pasture in galveston where I fish sometimes and I love them cows. They are the most peaceful lookin creatures on earth, they don’t bother nobody. I stopped my truck and told ‘em I aint eatin ‘em no more and that I love ‘em and they looked at me and wagged their tells so now I mostly just eat raw eggs and chicken. I want to be in heaven with cows one day.


58 posted on 11/14/2019 7:23:48 PM PST by Rebel Egg
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To: willk

I would note that neither the article or the claim by the PCRM is claiming human fecal matter contamination. As I read the article it is about animal fecal contamination not human.

It is true that no matter how clean and well run the meat slaughtering and processing plant is, there is going to be some animal poop, a very small, very minute amount, but not 100% free of it because animals right up to and even during and after slaughter poop. The key is how the meat is handled after slaughter to keep such contamination to a zero or as near to zero level as possible as to be safe for consumption.

FWIW ground meat is the most likely to contain trace amounts of animal fecal matter and why it is now recommended to cook ground beef thoroughly and to not cross contaminate surfaces, cutting boards, knives, etc. by thoroughly washing with hot water and soap or even a bleach based disinfectant on those surfaces and utensils between use or between using them for other raw meats or other foods and washing one’s hands well after handing raw meat and ground meats most especially. Personally I like my burger a bit pink and juicy in the middle and hate when a burger is cooked to the constancy of a hockey puck, but you may have noticed that many restaurants now have statements on their menus that their burgers are cooked to a certain doneness and either no longer allowed to be ordered “rare” or “medium rare” or come with a warning against it.

Many years ago a managed a convenience store, one in a chain owned by a dairy farm and one day I got a visit from the USDA Egg Inspector. Yes, that is an actual job. The Egg Inspector randomly selected cartons of eggs of various grades and weighed and measured and “candled” them to make sure they were actually of the grade they were labeled as and for quality –and also to make sure the eggs did have signs of, how shall I say – development into an embryonic chick, blood vessels, etc. He used a thermometer to check the temperature of the cooler where the eggs were stored and the consumer display case. He also swabbed some egg shells to test for chicken fecal matter. IIRC, a very, very small amount % was “acceptable”. That was back in the early 80’s and today from what I understand egg producers have to wash and sanitize them before being sold so any chicken fecal matter may no longer be acceptable in any amount. BTW, my store passed with flying colors and I learned some interesting egg facts from the inspector.

However, there is a difference between what the US mandates and other parts of the world, UK and the EU. Eggs in the UK and most other countries in Europe are not washed as it removes the “cuticle” the natural barrier, the liquid coating around it that naturally protects against contamination that the hen imparts when laying the egg – and so washing is prohibited because it could damage the cuticle making eggs even more vulnerable to contamination from pathogens and other micro-organisms rather than providing an additional safety net. Additionally, eggs in Europe are not refrigerated. EU law actually stipulates that eggs “should in general not be refrigerated before sale to the final consumer.” The regulations explain how “cold eggs left out at room temperature may become covered in condensation facilitating the growth of bacteria on the shell and probably their ingression into the egg.”

Here is an interesting article about the differences. And note this is not about e-coli but Salmonella.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nadiaarumugam/2012/10/25/why-american-eggs-would-be-illegal-in-a-british-supermarket-and-vice-versa/#40137f144050

And if you’ve ever been to a dairy farm and visited the milking barn as I have, before being milked, the cow’s udders are thoroughly washed and disinfected before being hooked up to the milking machines. But no matter how well this is done, cows poop a lot and even sometimes they poop while being milked. Dairy barns, even the milking barns are full of “shit”, literally.

And this is a big reason why, despite how much the “raw milk” proponents try to tell me it is healthier, I go with pasteurized milk and cheese products.


59 posted on 11/14/2019 7:26:44 PM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: sanjuanbob; Chode; Squantos; snooter55; SkyDancer; Lockbox; carriage_hill; tubebender; Delta 21; ...

And she said, with a tear in her eye
Watch out where the huskies go, and don’t you eat that yellow snow...


60 posted on 11/14/2019 7:27:39 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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