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This lead to the emptying of mental hospitals onto the streets of America.

Thanks a bunch, liar.

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1 posted on 11/11/2019 9:01:49 AM PST by null and void
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BOTH can be true.

There could be harrowing conditions. And the institutions could be necessary.

There have been harrowing conditions in many prisons over the years, yet nobody proposes doing away with prisons.


2 posted on 11/11/2019 9:07:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Very common.

Rachel Carson was a bad scientist. We got rid of DDT and we didn’t need to. Her science was flawed.


3 posted on 11/11/2019 9:16:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Your most honorable Nullness. Will comment on this thread at the end of the day. You will know why then and until then, may the Void be still.


5 posted on 11/11/2019 9:18:14 AM PST by Fungi
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Psychological studies have been shown to have something like a 70% rate of irreproducibility. I wonder what the rates are for political science & sociology. Biologists, hard scientists & engineers shouldn’t feel too comfortable their rates irreproducibility in academic papers is scandalous also.


10 posted on 11/11/2019 9:23:19 AM PST by Reily (D)
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Unlike a lot of you guys here, I actually worked for a brief time AT a “state hospital” while going to school. This would have been mid 70’s.

Harrowing? No .. geez ... fanciful writing I have to assume.


13 posted on 11/11/2019 9:26:53 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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very interesting story. The history of psychology is certainly rife with fraud, abuse and hubris. We’re still living in the dark ages as far as understanding the human brain in any scientific sense. Better than 1970, but still mostly ignorant.


16 posted on 11/11/2019 9:30:04 AM PST by babble-on
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“One student recalled how Rosenhan opened one of his lectures while sitting on a student’s lap — as a way to test the class’ reaction to abnormal behavior.”

I’m convinced everyone in the field of psychology originally became interested in it because they wanted to figure out what was wrong with themselves.


20 posted on 11/11/2019 9:36:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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And today we know it’s the 35% of voters who are registered Dem.....


22 posted on 11/11/2019 9:38:58 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Just as we as a society NEED to have prisons for those who commit serious crimes and have no will to change their views we also desperately need insane asylums to proliferate to an extent . 100’s of thousands experience temporary mental breakdowns when due to certain circumstances they simply break and perform acts entirely out of their normal range of emotions . The cost to our society and jails/prisons housing the chronically mentally ill is colossal in terms of monetary and damage to the individual . I see first hand those within our society who should be institutionalized and yet they get cut a disability check are prescribed serious drugs and are then prey to the “therapy” industry and other public programs which are FOR PROFIT and these individuals are nothing but publicly funded cash cows who revolve form jails to treatment centers and it is a costly circle jerk . Families get fatigued along with Police, medical and every other agency that has to deal with these poor souls . One thing that is perverse is that these persons who just flounder along until they either O.D. or get incarcerated for a long stretch have better insurance and Guaranteed money every month no matter what they do.....who pays this ? You and me . This is why I am FOR mental institutions to PLEASE make a comeback . It is a fact of humanity that some persons for whatever reason are just not right in the mind and an asylum is the best way overall to try and deal with a facet of being human .


25 posted on 11/11/2019 9:59:39 AM PST by mythenjoseph
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Confirmation Bias...drove Charles Darwin as well


30 posted on 11/11/2019 10:48:27 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Confirmation Bias...drove Charles Darwin as well


31 posted on 11/11/2019 10:48:56 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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She started the article pointing out that she herself was misdiagnosed with a mental illness. Right there, she’s admitting the system is flawed.

But, let’s agree that people who pose a danger to themselves or others should be committed. What behavior should we consider dangerous? If someone makes an empty threat during an argument, should that person be committed? Suppose “depression” is listed in the record.

There was a mental hospital in my hometown, and a few students in our high school were sent there over drug use or something. Probably their parents sent them there. It was not a nice place. Each time, the teen was released very quickly. But, while there, one was assaulted by another patient.

Another question is, who wants the hospital in their town? The hospital would place patients in our town to be treated as outpatients. Most were nice people struggling with an illness. But some of those patients weren’t mentally ill; they were just violent psychopaths.


32 posted on 11/11/2019 10:51:25 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Stanford = ivy plague school


34 posted on 11/11/2019 12:12:34 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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Smells a lot like global warming and hockey stick research with doctored data inputs to create the hockey stick. These guys’ data needs to be subjected to rigorous peer review rather than votes in the UN to affirm their doctored data.


35 posted on 11/11/2019 12:42:47 PM PST by chuckee
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Politicians wanted no part of funding benefits for mental patients, who don’t vote. The guy was pushing on an open door.


37 posted on 11/11/2019 1:31:19 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Here’s a Stanford prof who TELLS THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH!
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
The Looming 1984 Election
As is true of ALL his commentaries, THIS ONE IS A MUST READ & SHARE!
https://ussanews.com/News1/2019/11/10/the-looming-1984-election/


38 posted on 11/11/2019 3:03:10 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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