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1 posted on 11/08/2019 11:41:41 AM PST by jazusamo
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“ ... signs of a failing social experiment are increasingly obvious.”

That’s interesting ... because this is the first thing that crosses my mind when I encounter almost any government-run operation in the course of my daily life.

38 posted on 11/08/2019 12:16:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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So I guess that this is a call to lower the standards, right?


40 posted on 11/08/2019 12:20:20 PM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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Hi.

If true, how can a unit meet readiness requirements for deployment? To a war zone perhaps?

5.56mm


42 posted on 11/08/2019 12:22:36 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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And this is after the fitness tests have been watered down to accommodate Dem:-)


44 posted on 11/08/2019 12:22:57 PM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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I’m going to be blunt: I’m over 50 years old and could easily beat most females in a physical confrontation. Easily. Not that I ever would engage in a physical confrontation with a female except in self defense purposes. (Actually had to do so once — she was nuts and I just restrained her until she calmed down. Didn’t even call the cops.)

20 years of martial arts and dance (it’s not that dissimilar. It’s all about control of your body and movement. Walk about 2 miles per day to stay fit, etc. Comes in handy, for example the last time I intervened in a mugging near my apartment about 3 months ago.

However I have met women who could take me apart. One was an ex-girlfriend and retired US Marine. I outweighed her by almost 50 pounds and at the time had 10 years of martial arts under my belt. She was a very pretty blue eyed blonde. She could have shredded me. Just plain strong, wiry, and Marine trained — as a campus area rapist found out one day. All the blood in her apartment was his, not hers. He died in prison after serving part of a very long sentence.

I’d rather have her with me in a combat situation than any male snowflake.

Take away: Maintain the standards. If a woman meets them and wants to fight, let her. Yeah, I know about issues regarding sexual tension, but the Israelis appear to handle them OK so lets take a page out of their book.

That said, if the women do not meet the standards, don’t let them in.


45 posted on 11/08/2019 12:25:56 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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Check out this article, written by a female Marine. It is VERY well written and unsparing.

Women in Combat - The Question of Standards

When I read it, I found it to be depressing, sad, brilliant, uplifting, and ominous all at the same time.

Depressing because it is true: There are AMERICANS who are pushing this agenda with no regard to national security, battlefield readiness, or the lives of the men and women who will be sacrificed when the bullets begin to fly.

Sad, because this is where we are: most men in the military are bending over backwards not to have their voice heard saying: "This is a bad idea. We cannot integrate women into combat units without severely degrading readiness and the ability to perform the mission.

Brilliant: If I can take the money passage from her article:

"...Meanwhile, the argument to maintain the combat exclusion makes itself easily in every aspect...including women in combat units is bad for combat, bad for women, bad for men, bad for children, and bad for the country. The argument for the combat exclusion is provable all the time, every time. Political correctness has no chance against Nature. Her victories are staring us in the face at all times. The men just keep being able to lift more and to run faster, harder, and longer with more weight on their backs while suffering fewer injuries. They just keep never getting pregnant. The combat units have needs that women cannot meet. Women have needs that life in a combat unit cannot accommodate without accepting significant disadvantage and much greater expense. Where 99 percent of men can do the heavy-lifting tasks typical of gunners, but 85 percent of women cannot, there is no gap women need to fill..."

That pretty much sums it up.

Uplifting, because this Marine who wrote the article is a Marine, and has demonstrated and successfully argued that there is a role for patriotic, dedicated women who want to serve their country as she did, and her service means no less because she wasn't kicking down doors. She is an American Woman, and her heritage and ideals have more in common with the tough as nails frontier women who conquered this country with their men. She makes the feminists look like the petulant, spoiled, anti-American no-loads that they are. This sailor salutes her.

Ominous, because this movement, like the liberal cancers it shares all qualities with, is not going away. The linked article describes this perfectly, and why it is inevitable. Because military readiness and capability is being sacrificed on the altar of an Orwellian concept that men and women can do the same tasks exactly the same. This altar will run red with the blood of both men and women, and we are going to suffer lives needlessly ended, battles lost, and a national humiliation the likes of which we haven't seen.

It won't happen now, and it won't happen during some years of the peacetime military. But when we get to a point we are fighting an enemy who is going to be evenly matched with us, we are going to lose, because they cannot be stupid enough to follow the path we have. And when it happens, the people who will scream the loudest in protest, are going to be the successors to the people who made this all happen, since they will likely be kicking back somewhere, comfortable in their Monday morning armchairs, talking about how it wasn't the emasculation of the military combat units that caused this, it was that we didn't spend enough time, money, and effort to make it work.

50 posted on 11/08/2019 12:34:55 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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It’s psychotic that we are even having a discussion about this.


65 posted on 11/08/2019 12:53:21 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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One of the Army’s 1st female combat engineer recruits is a deserter
Army Times
By: Michelle Tan
February 5, 2016
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/02/05/one-of-the-army-s-1st-female-combat-engineer-recruits-is-a-deserter/

“One of the first women to sign up to become an Army combat engineer is now considered a deserter after being AWOL for 30 days...’After 30 days in AWOL status, a soldier is considered a deserter, and a federal warrant is issued for his or her arrest,’ Wood said...The Army opened the 12B combat engineer MOS in June, said Kelli Bland, a spokeswoman for U.S. Army Recruiting Command.”


12B Combat Engineer Officially Opens To Women
The Military Guide June 24, 2015
https://the-military-guide.com/12b-combat-engineer-becomes-first-combat-mos-open-women-applicants/

“Within the Engineer Career Management field, MOS 12B was the only remaining specialty that was restricted to women. Odierno explained that the decision to open Combat MOSs to women was made by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, back in January 2013.”


66 posted on 11/08/2019 12:56:36 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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"“Anyone, regardless of gender, who can meet operationally relevant standards, will have the opportunity to serve in any position.”

The money quote. And exactly as it should be.

73 posted on 11/08/2019 1:04:50 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Is this the new dumbed-down test like that simplified version the Rangers adopted? You know...to help out those who are no different than men.

Gotta keep up that PR mantra about diversity.

I read a CEO message that referred to our “service women and men.”

Though they are a fraction of the forces percentage-wise and in terms of deaths and casualties, the PC police have somehow jacked them up to top billing, reducing men to the add-on.

The CEO is a feminist-pandering jackass.


76 posted on 11/08/2019 1:10:24 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare to survive.)
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Thats because Trump’s new tests are sexist


78 posted on 11/08/2019 1:15:25 PM PST by RonnG (')
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Time to lower the standard


81 posted on 11/08/2019 1:18:50 PM PST by Bell Bouy II
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Thank the Kenyan’s “mission accomplished”.


83 posted on 11/08/2019 1:27:14 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Just have men who self-identify as women, take the tests for the women. Shouldn't be a problem.

They're kicking the real women's asses in sports now, so why not in the military?

These transgendered men can even use the women's bathrooms. No problem.

Does this all sound stupid? Of course it does.

It is stupid.

91 posted on 11/08/2019 1:48:47 PM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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Women vets represent a much greater proportion of the VA mental health services than men. I’ve seen them claim PTSD from sexual harassment. And they get the disability too.


95 posted on 11/08/2019 2:07:47 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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16 percent pass is good news for everyone.


108 posted on 11/08/2019 3:02:48 PM PST by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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Report: 84% of Army Women Not Fit for Combat, fixed it.


116 posted on 11/08/2019 3:35:07 PM PST by Garvin (It was just all fun and games until a .45 ACP shows up.)
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Well, by all means, this test needs to be dropped low enough for any 12 year old to pass.


127 posted on 11/08/2019 5:40:33 PM PST by bgill
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They will just be promoted above ranks where they’d march or carry loads.


135 posted on 11/18/2019 8:35:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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