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The Memo: After Vindman, GOP anxiety deepens (Barf)
The Hill ^ | 10/30/19 06:08 PM EDT | NIALL STANAGE

Posted on 10/30/2019 4:20:11 PM PDT by robowombat

The Memo: After Vindman, GOP anxiety deepens BY NIALL STANAGE - 10/30/19 06:08 PM EDT

Republican concerns are mounting about President Trump as damaging information piles up regarding his dealings with Ukraine.

The dam is not yet at the bursting point, but anxiety — fueled by the sense that more revelations could emerge at any moment — is rippling through the GOP.

“It’s fair to say my conversations with members continue to go to a worse place,” said Doug Heye, a former communications director of the Republican National Committee.

Heye added that, for the moment, there was a sizable gap between “private consternation versus public consternation.”

More discord could burst into public view soon. There are tensions about the White House’s strategy, with the most fervent Trump allies favoring a hard-line approach and others expressing misgivings.

The divide is particularly apparent regarding Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security Council (NSC) official who delivered damaging testimony about Trump on Tuesday.

The president on Wednesday repeated his criticism of Vindman as a “Never Trumper.”

Vindman testified that he was so concerned about Trump’s now-infamous July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he reported it to an NSC lawyer.

Vindman also said he had contacted the lawyer on an earlier occasion, when U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland raised the issue of possible investigations by Ukraine into the 2016 election and into 2020 Democratic candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

The danger posed by Vindman’s testimony was underscored by the ferocity of the attacks against him by Trump’s media allies — attacks that included unsubstantiated allegations that he had dual loyalty to Ukraine or that he had been working to undermine the president.

Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the third-ranking Republican in the House, said it was “shameful” to question Vindman’s patriotism and that “we need to show that we are better than that as a nation.”

Some GOP senators, including John Thune (S.D.) and Roy Blunt (Mo.), also distanced themselves from those attacks.

Among the ranks of Republicans who are critical of Trump, the outrage at the tone of the attacks on Vindman was even clearer.

Rick Tyler, who was Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-Texas) communications director during the 2016 presidential campaign, noted Vindman’s history as a military officer who was awarded a Purple Heart medal after being injured by an improvised explosive device during the Iraq War.

“You’re going to attack this guy, sight unseen, in order to protect the president?” Tyler said in bafflement. “You’d have to have your head examined!”

Tyler also asserted that most Republicans are not buying the president’s repeated assertions that there was nothing wrong with his call with Zelensky.

“The president seems to be sanctioning it and saying it is all fair game, it is all part of the process,” Tyler said. “But it’s not. It’s a very dangerous game. And most Republicans do understand that.”

Even so, there are not many signs yet of any large-scale desertion of the president.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday accused House Democrats of setting “a new low” in the impeachment inquiry and said that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) had “initiated a bizarre process.”

Former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), who is also a columnist for The Hill, said that Republicans acknowledge there is “a legitimate concern” about the president’s dealings with Ukraine but added that it did not yet rise to the level of a “smoking gun.”

Gregg also said that there was considerable anger at the way Democrats had handled the process, accusing them of running a “kangaroo court.”

He said that, among the GOP, this created some sympathy for Trump — “which is hard to do, because he is not a sympathetic figure.”

Michael Caputo, a long-standing friend of Trump, said that he believed support for the president had strengthened among his base.

But while Caputo offered support for an aggressive strategy from the pro-Trump side — “Lock it down and weather the storm!” he said — he also cautioned that the White House needed to ensure there would be no slippage of support in the Senate, where Trump’s fate could ultimately be decided.

Three Republican senators — Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Mitt Romney (Utah) — last week declined to sign a resolution condemning the impeachment process.

“The president and his team should be working the Republican Senate relentlessly,” Caputo said.

Trump faces one problem that he has not been able to surmount so far.

Many GOP members are reluctant to climb out on a limb for him when they don’t know what is coming next.

On Wednesday, news broke that former national security advisor John Bolton had been invited to give a deposition on Nov. 7.

NBC News also reported that Vindman, during his testimony, said that aid to Ukraine and a White House visit for Zelensky had been made “contingent” upon Ukraine beginning multiple investigations — exactly the kind of quid pro quo that Trump has repeatedly denied.

Republicans on Capitol Hill “are very mindful of not getting too far ahead of the president on this,” said Heye.

“They can say something on Monday morning and learn that it is not true on Monday afternoon,” he added.

The Memo is a reported column by Niall Stanage, primary focused on Donald Trump’s presidency.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratmedia; fakenews; nevertrumpers; ohno; selectiveleaks; vindman
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The rats continue to grasp at straws and the gopers show how cowardly they are.
1 posted on 10/30/2019 4:20:11 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Fake news. If all this was really damaging, why wouldn’t Democrats authorize a formal impeachment inquiry?

Inquiring minds would like to know.


2 posted on 10/30/2019 4:22:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: robowombat

“It’s fair to say my conversations with members continue to go to a worse place,” said Doug Heye, a former communications director of the Republican National Committee.


During primary season this Never Trump dirt bag called POTUS “an abortion on the GOP” on CNN. Then he blocked me on twitter for calling him out.


3 posted on 10/30/2019 4:23:56 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Democrat media journos interviewing Never Trumpers. Of course.


4 posted on 10/30/2019 4:25:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: All
Peter Venkman, also in full uniform


5 posted on 10/30/2019 4:25:32 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: goldstategop

Fake news. If all this was really damaging, why wouldn’t Democrats authorize a formal impeachment inquiry?

Inquiring minds would like to know.


No reason for Pelosi to expose swing district Dems to any more uncomfortable votes than she has to. I expect the House Dems will ram through formal impeachment and actual impeachment in close proximity. Maybe even the same day. Around January seems to be their plan.


6 posted on 10/30/2019 4:26:21 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Heye, another Quisling and whore of the Oligarchy.
7 posted on 10/30/2019 4:26:33 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: JonPreston

Who is Vindman? He isn’t famous thanks to Democrat secret hearings.


8 posted on 10/30/2019 4:28:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Just had a quick peak at the twitter account of “journalist” in question here. Even for a rabid Dem the stench of TDS is strong.


9 posted on 10/30/2019 4:28:34 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: robowombat

“Flounder” Dorfman will fold under pressure.


10 posted on 10/30/2019 4:29:00 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: robowombat; timestax
Now in two flavors!




11 posted on 10/30/2019 4:30:18 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: robowombat

Vindman is just Schiff for Brain’s ventriloquist’s Dummy


12 posted on 10/30/2019 4:30:59 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: robowombat

Vindman evidently forgot the about the chain of command. The President sets foreign policy not any agency and he is such a low level individual that his opinion doesn’t count. The Ukrainian investigation is a ruse to deflect and confuse the low information voters about the real investigation of the coup that started before Trump took office.


13 posted on 10/30/2019 4:32:14 PM PDT by grcuster
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To: robowombat

They only quoted Bush League Republicans.
President Trump is an impediment to their plan to turn the USA into North Mexico.
They would use any excuse to get rid of him.


14 posted on 10/30/2019 4:37:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: robowombat

The only group with anxiety is the left-wing media that feels the need to create outrageous titles, and then offer nothing in their articles to prove it.


15 posted on 10/30/2019 4:38:12 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: robowombat

NOT illegal or immoral for a president to use quid pro quo, aka diplomacy, in pursuit of national interests of which he, as president, gets to decide. The pursuit of potential corruption, regardless of whether or not a suspect is a member—leading or otherwise—of an opposing political party, is actually a presidential job requirement. It’s called enforcement of the law.

That said, this colonel was apparently ordered not to testify by the commander in chief. Whether this colonel agrees or disagrees with the president’s execution of constitutional duties, he is required to obey the lawful orders of the president. The burden of proof as to whether something is legal or not falls entirely on the junior member.

I suppose we will need to next ask the NSC janitorial staff for their opinion.

This “impeachment inquiry” is an absolute joke. I get that the House can pretty much do what they want, but the founders clearly didn’t intend for high crimes and misdemeanors to mean political differences of opinion.

I used to think the deep state was a bit of a conspiracy theory, but whether they are coordinated or not, there are many snakes working in DC against the constitutionally elected president. This isn’t an attack on Trump. It’s an attack on We the People and the US Constitution. The Democrats and their Republican bedfellows are apparently more than willing to tear the civil society apart so long as they get their way.


16 posted on 10/30/2019 4:41:33 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: robowombat

Fake news.


17 posted on 10/30/2019 4:43:21 PM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: robowombat

so basically a two sentence quote from the communications director of Ted Cruz is what they are basing all this anxiety on??


18 posted on 10/30/2019 4:47:22 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: grcuster

It’s laughable. A relatively low ranking officer calling out a PRESIDENT on a difference of opinion regarding the president’s foreign policy. Not only that, but testifying in defiance of a president’s lawful order to NOT testify. I’m sure the Democrats and media will do everything possible to protect this insubordinate colonel, but he SHOULD be brought up on charges under the UCMJ.


19 posted on 10/30/2019 4:49:04 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: robowombat

George Webb lays bare the Vindman twin traitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cltpi3GJmo


20 posted on 10/30/2019 4:54:04 PM PDT by iontheball
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