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1 posted on 10/30/2019 3:23:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; sphinx; Publius; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian
Florida’s toll road projects lack big support, except from road builders (10/6/19)

PING.

2 posted on 10/30/2019 3:25:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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If Rick Perry had a son, he’d look like Ron Desantis...


3 posted on 10/30/2019 3:30:26 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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Thanks Tol,

Sadly, as we learned here in Texas, CONSERVATIVES seem to not see tolls as taxes - after all, driving on a toll road is ‘voluntary’, as they see it (assuming that you have several hours every day to spare). So rather than raising the gas tax a bit, thereby making all drivers spend $100 a year to get traffic moving, they push toll roads that can EASILY cost virtually all drivers $1,000 a year (and often much more)...and their ‘justification’ for that is that it’s (technically) not a tax increase, since there are always (crappy) other options.

In Texas, we spend years learning that lesson and are still paying for it (thank you Governor Perry /s). Sadly, it appears that Florida, already toll-road heavy, will now have to deal with another round of abuse.


4 posted on 10/30/2019 3:37:32 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't te Don't tell anyone.)
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"DeSantis approved these toll roads. So where’s the reason to build them?"

So drivers who have the income/and decide to pay can get where they want to go quicker.

Tampa Bay Times owners are going to lobby for toll subsidies for their "reporters" anyway so they can get "there quicker", but in the mean time, a good old fashion class envy article "needs to be had".
6 posted on 10/30/2019 3:44:29 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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I don’t know about the other two, but the Suncoast extension is unneeded and unwanted.


9 posted on 10/30/2019 3:58:22 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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Just as I figured:

Democrat Mark Hatch

Go down to Dixie County - 6th line down

11 posted on 10/30/2019 4:09:23 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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I bet there’s real estate developers in the wood pile too.

In Florida the developers always, but always, get what they want.

They won’t stop building and paving until every square inch of the state has a mall or housing development or parking lot on it.

First and last time I voted for a tax increase was a county bond issue in Broward to set aside the last bit of undeveloped beachfront in the county as a sea turtle habitat and park.

The bond issue passed, yay!

Then the bought and paid for parasites on the commission decided to swap that land for a bit of land on the edge of the Everglades, development stopped at University Boulevard in those days, late 70’s.

Then they built the Sawgrass Expressway and the house and malls spread another 10 or 15 miles west.

Compared to the early 70’s it’s Mordor-by-Sea now, traffic jams, noise, crime, congestion.


12 posted on 10/30/2019 4:15:42 PM PDT by skepsel (I miss William F. Buckley and the old Firing Line)
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Toll roads in the modern era are an abomination.

Just cut government spending!


13 posted on 10/30/2019 4:19:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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