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To: Lurkinanloomin

For the FBI it began with J. Edgar Hoover; for the CIA it began with Stansfield Turner.


7 posted on 10/30/2019 8:46:09 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Bookshelf

So then Richard Helms, Allen Dulles, James Jesus Angleton and William J Casey were probably the last of the “good guys” at CIA.


12 posted on 10/30/2019 9:07:47 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Bookshelf
On Oct. 31, 1977, in what the media dubbed the "Halloween massacre," Turner announced the elimination of 820 positions among the CIA's clandestine operations staff, 649 jobs would be axed through attrition, 154 by involuntary retirement and 17 were simply fired. The Post writes: "Some of the officers who left had been with the CIA since its inception in 1947. Critics said Adm. Turner's reorganization amounted to a brain drain of the agency's most experienced covert officers. 'Many of the old cadre never forgave Turner for this reduction in force that he carried out,' said John Prados, an intelligence expert and senior fellow at the National Security Archive in Washington. It did not matter, Prados said, that Adm. Turner 'was only carrying out preordained orders.'"

Source: National Public Radio, by Scott Neuman

Question is, who all replaced them.

19 posted on 10/30/2019 9:18:10 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Bookshelf

How to take down the FBI:

Refuse to talk to an FBI agent. Even if they claim to be hot on the trail of the next Bin Laden. Don’t expose yourself to a process crime. And if seated on a jury where any of the evidence passed thru FBI hands, you must vote to acquit.

If they can’t conduct investigations, and can’t get convictions, they’ll just wither away.

How to take down the CIA/NSA:

Flood the zone with potentially disturbing terror/espionage signals in every email, phone call, social media posting or other communication you engage in. Flood the zone with more leads to more bad stuff than they can ever keep up with. Sooner or later the whole Rube Goldberg contraption will collapse under the weight.


33 posted on 10/30/2019 10:49:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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