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Safety Concerns for Hybrid & Electric Ships
Sterling PBES Energy Solution ^ | 10-25-2019 | Brent Perry and Grant Brown

Posted on 10/27/2019 12:13:02 PM PDT by Oatka

Preface On October 11, 2019, an explosion rocked passenger ferry Ytterøyningen while dockside at Sydnes, Norway. The vessel, recently refit with a lithium-ion battery hybrid drive, is part of the new fleet of low and zero emission vessels being deployed across Norway and other parts of the world. The vessel was at dock having been pulled from service the night before due to a fire in the lithium propulsion batteries; a condition known as thermal runaway. The root cause of the fire is still to be announced, but the secondary explosion caused significant structural damage to the vessel; likely a result of a buildup of flammable gasses below deck. Thankfully none of the 15 people admitted to the hospital were badly injured and all were soon released.

(Excerpt) Read more at spbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: electric; energy; environment; maritime; navy
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To: DUMBGRUNT

At absolute zero?


21 posted on 10/27/2019 12:48:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Democracies are never populated by free people)
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To: posterchild

“What value is this on a ship which would stop using its drag or with engines in reverse?”

It was most likely LNG.

The are testing battery systems. Just a guess but they could charge while cruising at sea and thus reduce import emissions.


22 posted on 10/27/2019 12:49:33 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

in-port


23 posted on 10/27/2019 12:51:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Not my line of work, but methinks this is close to perpetual motion?”

Why?

And what is a kw/h?


24 posted on 10/27/2019 12:55:28 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

——And what is a kw/h?——

Energy dissipation or usage rate


25 posted on 10/27/2019 12:59:41 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Gamecock; SaveFerris

“We need some land guys over here stat!”


26 posted on 10/27/2019 1:03:23 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Oatka
"Ytterøyningen"?


27 posted on 10/27/2019 1:06:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: BobL

I think the real driving force is the emissions while in port. Conventional diesel or bunker fuel emissions in port can be very bad because ships don’t have the same emission controls as stationary sources.

Of course, the companies can pitch “Look! We don’t use any of that evil, stinking carbon” and “Look! Green, green, green!!” to a gullible public.


28 posted on 10/27/2019 1:06:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Whenever I order a product that contains even the smallest Lithium Ion cell, it is shipped UPS Ground and takes much longer to arrive.


29 posted on 10/27/2019 1:08:13 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bert

“Energy dissipation or usage rate”

Bad guess.


30 posted on 10/27/2019 1:13:34 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

“When improperly collected, the voltage increases times the number of batteries.”

Do you mean ‘when properly connected, the voltage increases times the number?

“The U.S. Post Office won’t accept packages containing them.”

The will, with restrictions.


31 posted on 10/27/2019 1:18:15 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Oatka

Queue the “Simpsons” character Nelson : “Ha, Ha !


32 posted on 10/27/2019 1:24:45 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: Track9

” In other news, importing large numbers of Islamic fascists into your country causes significant thermal runway. “

Oh, c’mon. Who in their right mind would do that ?

It’s inconceivable.


33 posted on 10/27/2019 1:30:59 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
I’m a watchmaker and won’t allow LITHIUM batteries into my shop!!!! Most batteries can be saved for re-cycling but a box of “dead” LITHIUM batteries, packed for mailing by a store I serviced, overheated on a counter and started a very hot fire.

While the information about safe handling of lithium batteries is not generally known, it is available.

For example, to fully discharge a lithium battery and render it truly safe, you drop it into a container of salt water for 24 hours.

34 posted on 10/27/2019 1:59:02 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Oatka
Got this in an email


35 posted on 10/27/2019 2:00:21 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: editor-surveyor

“At absolute zero?”

Sailboats have been using water and wind driven Generators for decades!


36 posted on 10/27/2019 2:08:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: humblegunner

Amazon.com


37 posted on 10/27/2019 2:12:30 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

How does a water driven generator work? Dropped alongside when under wind power?


38 posted on 10/27/2019 2:18:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Oatka

Use Communist Chinese lithium-ion battery technology, fires and explosions happen. A lot.


39 posted on 10/27/2019 2:33:32 PM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: TexasGator
Why?

Unlike applying brakes on a car with regenerative braking when needing to slow down, this is like driving with a foot on the brake all the time to regen the battery.
More than a bit of lost motion in the system.

And what is a kw/h?

kWh or sometimes kW⋅h, about the slash?
You will have to check with author for that one.

40 posted on 10/27/2019 2:48:06 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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