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Pro-Trump Folks: Don’t Let The Coming IG Report Break Your Heart
Townhall ^ | 10/23/2019 | Chris Stigall

Posted on 10/23/2019 8:23:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

More than a few exasperated pro-Trump folks have been asking, “What’s taking the Justice Department’s Inspector General so long to release his findings?” The answer? It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter when it’s released and it won’t matter what’s in it.

Listen, I hate to be Debbie Downer here but the anticipation surrounding this report is rooted in the hope and sincere belief that its pages contain such shocking detail of government abuses and corruption within our intelligence agencies the nation will roil as one with cries for justice and vindication for Donald Trump!

Sorry. It’s not going to happen. Of course there were flagrant abuses. There’s already ample evidence the 2016 Clinton campaign was guilty of foreign collusion and our FBI used the outcome of that collusion to knowingly mislead a FISA court to obtain warrants. We know those warrants were then used to spy on American citizens within the Trump campaign. This was followed by well-documented leaking to the press, lying, internal political collusion and the setting of perjury traps by Barack Obama’s CIA and DOJ.

But again, we already know these things occurred. Will we learn of even worse abuse? Perhaps. Will anything change? Nope. Not just because Democrats and the media will ignore it. Sadly, so will the Republicans.

Attorney General Bill Barr, whom I consider the most important public servant next to Donald Trump in a generation, is being viewed skeptically by many Trump backers because of his lack of media air time and that we’ve not heard details of any heads rolling inside DOJ. I’ve heard it said by many skeptical MAGA voters that Barr’s no different than the rest of the deep state if there aren’t indictments. Lock them up or else!

Barr is a thorough, patient, methodical guy. He’s not going to rush this because we want him to. He’s not thinking about the next election. I have no doubt he’s trying to clean up the DOJ and expose the craven behavior of those in the highest ranks of the organization. But even if he exposes criminality, it’s not going to sway a single Democrat currently in the process of gas lighting the country over Ukraine.

President Trump is right when he says Democrats fight dirty. Their two biggest attributes are “they’re vicious and they stick together. They don’t have Mitt Romney in their midst,” Trump said Monday during his cabinet meeting.

He’s referring to the pathetic story of former Republican presidential candidate and now Utah Senator Mitt Romney’s admission that he uses a fake Twitter account to monitor his favorite personalities, such as squish, RINO-types who write for the Washington Post. He apparently likes to bravely tweet correct-the-record comments to those critical of him without being seen. Some kind of petty, personal therapy session, I suppose. A real profile in courage.

He also loves to be seen on cable TV as 2019’s version of McCain attacking President Trump whenever invited. Much like his late predecessor, he couldn’t win a presidential election so he decided to build a career attacking those who could - especially if the winners are in his own party.

In Romney’s case, much like McCain’s before him, the addiction to being in the spotlight and being viewed as the Republican his Democratic colleagues and mainstream media would respect was always far more important than whether or not the electorate respected him.

The other question beginning to percolate in many conservative circles is “What’s Lindsey Graham up to?” The powerful chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee has been threatening for months to haul this character or that character up to the Hill to testify. There’s only one problem. He’s never called anyone to testify and doesn’t appear ready to do so any time soon.

Former chair of the committee and long-serving Republican Senator Chuck Grassley tweeted this week, “All of the delays and excuses why the Horowitz IG report isn’t public yet after several months of anticipation of its issues leads me to the suspicion it’s going to be “deep six” by the deep state.”

Well, what are you and your colleagues doing about it over there in Judiciary, senator? You don’t need to wait for the report to begin hearings with the suspected players in this sordid tale of government abuses. But you’re not acting either. Why?

Former D.C. bureau chief for Investor’s Business Daily, Paul Sperry, tweeted his theory of the inaction. “Perhaps the reason Graham won’t hold hearings to get to the bottom of the origins of #Spygate and the political espionage conducted against Trump is because we might learn he was working with his bosom buddy McCain to push the dossier to smear Trump.”

I hate how correct I fear Mr. Sperry may be. And I really hate how likely it is Graham isn’t the only Republican of whom we should be suspicious.

A new Rasmussen poll released this week finds just over half of voters still believe in the likelihood of an illegal, high-level effort to stop the Trump presidency, but not nearly as many expect anyone to be punished for it.

Those likely voters are correct. It did happen. But nothing will happen to the guilty parties - except next year’s election. That’s voters’ only recourse. Donald Trump came to drain the swamp and there’s plenty more work to be done. Unfortunately, his party swims in the very same swamp.

It’s up to voters to help the president drain it. We’ll drown in it waiting for the GOP.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agbarr; cultureofcorruption; doj; fbi; igreport; inspectorgeneral; paulsperry; trumpdoj; trumprussia
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To: InterceptPoint

“Chris Stigall ...Never heard of him. ...”

For about 12 years, he was the morning conservative talk show host on 1210am WPHT in Philadelphia.

A real fireball, very sharp and savvy, and much missed. His contract was up.

Although Rich Zeoli who took over the morning slot is extraordinary too.


41 posted on 10/23/2019 9:06:10 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Face it, the 'coup' conspirators will never see justice. We live in a multi tiered justice system. The DOJ is joke. The bagpiper is asleep. Almost makes me wish for Jeff Sessions to come back.

The worse thing about all of this is the American people will be subjected to gaslighting ( is that a word? ) mentally coerced into thinking that what they witness never really happened. Sucks to be us.

42 posted on 10/23/2019 9:07:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

 IG report released!!


43 posted on 10/23/2019 9:10:03 AM PDT by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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To: bigbob

” it’s a lot more of “fix the system” than “lock her up”.”

There is nothing that you can do to prevent bad actors from breaking the system once again in the future. The system didn’t come to us broke, it was intentionally broken by those who took power by winning elections. Bush, Clinton, Obama...there is nothing that will prevent such actors from destroying any such fixes if the people once again start electing people from the political establishment. The power in the government structure flows from the top - the top in America’s case has become the political establishment of both parties in close alliance with the permanent government bureaucracy.

Even if the problems are “fixed” they can be broken once again, almost immediately, and they likely will be if we elect ideological totalitarians like Clinton or Obama, or government establishment elites like the Bushes.

There is no protection for the American people against “bad actors” in power...except that provided by the 2nd Amendment being fully utilized from time to time.


44 posted on 10/23/2019 9:10:14 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have heard that the intelligence agencies and the FBI want half the report redacted. That is the cause for the delay.


45 posted on 10/23/2019 9:13:01 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is correct. Nothing will happen. There are two systems of justice in America.


46 posted on 10/23/2019 9:13:06 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Truth29
It will take Schiff, Pelosi, Brennan, Clapper, Comey and many others picked up off the sidewalk, tried before peoples’ courts and executed to make any impact at all.

You may be correct. It depends on whether we have yet had a judicial determination of what behavior qualifies one as a domestic enemy".

BTW, guess who has the most capable security detail known to man.

47 posted on 10/23/2019 9:17:38 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Arguing the Founders intended the weakest of 2 possible forms of NBC for our leader is a scam.)
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To: SamAdams76

” I don’t have my hopes set on the ring-leaders of the coup being frog-marched off to jail..”
I agree with you. But, if they are not, then our Republic will continue its march toward extinction. When you have government employees blatently violate the law and also attempt a coup and nothing happens to them, they you have no rule of law but only rule of man. And rule of man means no Constitution and thus no country since the Constitution is the backbone and basis of our country.


48 posted on 10/23/2019 9:17:52 AM PDT by falcon99 (qu)
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To: SeekAndFind

The democrat/deepstate/media loves the swamp. It’s how they prefer to operate. Sadly, the GOP also prefers the swamp. They all profit from it, in one form or another. No one in the group is going to go against all the others. Trump exposed the swamp’s underbelly. So he’s the target. There are those who are actively plotting to remove him, and the rest will stand to the side. But none of them will stand up to the swamp, in spite of the empty words they spout in front of the cameras.


49 posted on 10/23/2019 9:18:14 AM PDT by robel
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To: SeekAndFind

Bottom line: No matter what they find you will NEVER get a jury comprised of D.C. residents to convict ANY of them.

It’s a company town. They owe their souls to the company store. And the company is The Swamp.


50 posted on 10/23/2019 9:19:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Tench_Coxe

And so long as Lois Lerner continues to walk around a free woman, they will continue to believe that.


51 posted on 10/23/2019 9:20:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

52 posted on 10/23/2019 9:24:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind
Barr is a thorough, patient, methodical guy. He’s not going to rush this because we want him to. He’s not thinking about the next election. I have no doubt he’s trying to clean up the DOJ and expose the craven behavior of those in the highest ranks of the organization. But even if he exposes criminality, it’s not going to sway a single Democrat currently in the process of gas lighting the country over Ukraine.

The problem we see over and over with these guys is that they claim to be saving the "institution" of the DoJ, or the FBI, or the CIA, or whatever. And they fear that dragging former leaders through the judicial system will undermine the institutions.

But the reality is the these institutions are already rotted. A thorough and public cleansing is the only thing that will restore these institutions.

53 posted on 10/23/2019 9:30:09 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: SeekAndFind

TWO WEEKS.

It’s been “two weeks” for the past 4 months.


54 posted on 10/23/2019 9:32:56 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: SeekAndFind
Release the Kraken
55 posted on 10/23/2019 9:37:35 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Socialism is great, 300 million dead Socialist martyrs can't be wrong)
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To: bigbob

The solution to that is to:

Not allowing a non-natural born citizen to usurp the Presidency again.


56 posted on 10/23/2019 9:43:47 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

You raise some good points, and I wish I could just say it wasn’t so. It probably comes down to the degree of optimism one has about the human race in general...as there are probably parallels going back to the Garden of Eden...

You do leave me a point to rest my faith on with the phrase “if the people once again start electing people from the political establishment”.

That does answer the question doesn’t it? If we want more of the same, just keep doing what we’ve been doing - with the exception of Trump. I never would have predicted it, and during the Obamanation I was pretty much resigned to become a socialist thugocracy, but a black swan event happened in Nov. 2016.

The only hope is that We the People are paying attention, and Trumps resiliency and popularity among his base give reason to hope that is true. We will see...

A lot depends on Barr too, obviously. I remain convinced that he (an outsider by many measures) decided to come back into the swamp for no other reason than to help drain it and restore the institutions he once respected. The jury is obviously out, but my point mainly was that it will not come a surprise if greater emphasis is placed on fixing the system than in prosecuting those who abused it in the past, because to people like Barr, having a Justice system that does it’s job objectively and fairly and earns the trust of the people is perhaps the highest goal.

All that said, I hope as much as anyone that many of the rotten bastards are put through the humiliation and financial and emotional burden of a trial and are found guilty and pay a high price for what they have done.


57 posted on 10/23/2019 9:43:53 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Re: not holding my breath...I fear it’s deeper and swampier that we could ever imagine... involving Democrats, Republicans, judges, lobbyists, media pundits, former presidents and people we would never suspect... and theft of the people’s resources and freedom beyond measure!

Are there any Good Guys in the Deep State Swamp? Is Trump the tragic hero who fights alone? Are they all drunk on greed and power, even some who claim to be his allies? We hear of AG Barr and others investigating this Deep State. We have been teased over and over but have learned little from the “official investigators” with no indictments so far.

I wonder... that maybe the strategy is to “investigate” forever... never to conclude. And when Trump leaves office be it 2021 or (hopefully) 2025, it ALL *POOF!* just goes away! Sorta like Jeffery Epstein clients and Hillary’s e-mails have. #POOF!


58 posted on 10/23/2019 9:45:57 AM PDT by FiddlePig (The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those likely voters are correct. It did happen. But nothing will happen to the guilty parties - except next year’s election. That’s voters’ only recourse.

No. It's not. But the uniparty better pray that's the one that solves the problem.

59 posted on 10/23/2019 9:47:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: falcon99

We have not been a Republic since Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009 when BOTH parties abrogated the Constitution by installing a British subject/Kenyan national non-natural born citizen as President.


60 posted on 10/23/2019 9:50:19 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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