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Brexit and democracy
Rzeczpospolita ^ | 22 October 2019 | Jan Zielonki

Posted on 10/23/2019 5:54:08 AM PDT by Cronos

Brexit has evolved from tragicomedy into a distasteful horror that will be with us for the next decade. The agreement on the withdrawal of Great Britain from the Union is just the beginning. Then there will be the fight for trade, services, agriculture and many other matters that regulate 20,000 European legislation, plus 750 international agreements. Only lawyers and satirists will earn from this divorce. Everyone else will lose.

Brexit reveals the pathologies of modern democracy that need to be considered seriously.

First, national agreement is a pipe dream. Fighting camps do not accept a result other than what they believe. Union supporters did not accept the result of the 2016 referendum, but if there were a second referendum with the opposite result, Brexit supporters would not accept it. The circle closes.

Secondly, Brexit shows the weakness of parliamentary democracy. He was to restore the mother of parliaments on the Thames with sovereignty and glory, but reality showed Westminster's great weakness. MPs may block further government solutions, but they are unable to propose a viable alternative. Chaos is a great enemy of democracy, and the House of Commons is unable to control this chaos.

Third, brexit shows the weakness of the party. Both the Tories and Labor are internally at odds. Leaders cannot provide discipline. Party members are increasingly bitter. Voters are looking for an alternative, although there is no other interesting party. The function of party representation and articulation of interests is fiction when many MPs betray electoral promises.

Fourthly, Brexit shows that politics is insensitive to pressure from major professional groups...

Fifthly, Brexit shows that politics is more and more local and power more and more centralized. Democracy cannot build bridges between the British government in London and the local community in Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bloggers; brexit; eussr; eussrtroll; fourthreich
Pretty astute - I see increasing polarisation in the news and politics of the USA, UK, Poland, India and Australia.

Democracy when opinions are split nearly 50:50 will always be fraught with rage

1 posted on 10/23/2019 5:54:08 AM PDT by Cronos
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Democracy when opinions are split nearly 50:50

That is the point of freedom. If there is no general consensus as to what is to be done, maybe government should do nothing. Leaving a country in the EU is not a blow for democracy nor is it doing nothing to promote individual freedom. It is abdication of sovereignty to a crushing tyrannical bureaucratic regime of Euroweenies.

2 posted on 10/23/2019 6:01:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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“If there is no general consensus as to what is to be done, maybe government should do nothing. “ — you mean that the British government shouldn’t have proceeded with Brexit in your opinion because it was too close?


3 posted on 10/23/2019 6:04:21 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

Did you actually read what I wrote???? All of it?????


4 posted on 10/23/2019 6:05:48 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Cronos

Pah, another deep state loon.

Aside from the politics, what about the FACT that the population voted to Brexit in 2 referendums? Everything else is deep state posturing and tired political pseudo arguments. If Parliament cared a bit about the people, they would give a big F@ck You to the EU. Sovereign nations to what the hell they want to do, end of story. Europeans seem to have forgotten that.


5 posted on 10/23/2019 6:06:35 AM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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” voted to Brexit in 2 referendums?”

Two referendums?

The first Brexit referendum was in 1975 when the UK voted 67% to remain. The second was in 2016 when 52% voted to Leave.

Or are you referring to something else?


6 posted on 10/23/2019 6:15:03 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: AndyJackson

you said

1. If there is no general consensus as to what is to be done, government should do nothing — ergo, if there is no general consensus to Brexit, are you saying that the UK shouldn’t Brexit?

2. you then said “Leaving a country in the EU is not a blow for democracy”

3. your post then contradicts itself about “not changing anything if no general consensus”


7 posted on 10/23/2019 6:18:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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Any and all hardship(mostly exaggerated) associated with getting out of the clutches of the evil EU kraken is well worth it.
8 posted on 10/23/2019 6:30:36 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Cronos

All political force ultimately comes out of the barrel of a gun.


9 posted on 10/23/2019 7:22:26 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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Leaving a country in the EU is a blow against individual freedom. I don’t know whether it is pro democracy if a majority choose to surrender their sovereignty to a foreign entity. But those who swore allegiance, say to the crown, I think, are off the hook when the government abdicates its sovereignty. They were not born subjects of Brussels.


10 posted on 10/23/2019 9:06:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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