If you'd just agree to hold your meetings in here, you'd have PLENTY of time to figure things out before the deadline.
Posted on 10/21/2019 4:42:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
And the next time someone says...Why not give up your sovereignty? Remember Brexit!!
Whatever happened to simply crashing out on October 31 with no deal?? No one’s been talking about that option since Parliament was prorogued.
The was always the worst-case scenario.
Conservatives only adopted it to show the EU that they were deadly serious about leaving, deal or no deal.
Once the EU realized that, and that they weren’t going to be able to roll BoJo like they had done with May, they were more willing to negotiate.
Contrary to the author’s assertion, President Trump is not a “mercantile”, or mercantilist, and is more of a free trader than even he presents. What his critics miss is that President Trump recognizes that the unbalanced trade agreements made after the Second World War gave other nations easy access to America without reciprocal access. It is (past) time to readjust our trade agreements to made trade more balanced. President Trump is now rebalancing America’s foreign trade.
Whether here or abroad it sure takes forever for conservatives to pull the thumb out and get something going.
That was exquisitely stated.
Yes, you are correct - EU needed to be pushed to the limit. But I am not talking about the EU. Boris has his deal with the EU, and its Parliament and his own party who will continue to throw up roadblocks. So if they won't vote, or don't pass it - what happens October 31?
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If you'd just agree to hold your meetings in here, you'd have PLENTY of time to figure things out before the deadline.
Guess we’ll all have to wait & see what happens with the vote in Parliament ...
The Brits took on the continent twice before and won 2 wars. Now they are begging to leave some German run organization they got suckered into.
I expected more from an ex colonial power the once ruled the world. What the hell happened here?
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The Boris deal is exactly the same as the May deal except that Boris has compromised (or as your post put it "rolled over") on Northern Ireland.
This guy was a classics scholar??
St. George was a Greek from Cappadocia who first became patron saint of Georgia in the 4th century (well before the Anglo-Saxons even came to the British isles) and the legend of him killing a dragon was not to save a princess (it was a maiden village girl) nor to "restore democracy".
Then they changed to no-deal
now the tune is changing to 'we want a deal' again.
Boris has agreed a deal with the eu commission. now that needs to be passed by the EU executive - the 27 elected leaders of the countries (like Morawiecki, Macron, Merkel, Orban, Varadkar etc.) and by the UK parliament
The DUP northern Irish will vote against it and parts of Labour and others will vote against it
if they don't pass it by October 31 then either a no-deal happens or they push for a signed, formal letter requesting an extension. Whether that happens is sheer speculation as is what could happen beyond that. Way too many variables to make any kind of prediction. Just wait and watch
1. The Brits didn’t “take on the continent” - they fought:
a. World war 1 against the Germans, Austrians and Turks and supported by the French, Italians, Russians, Americans etc.
b. World war 2 against the Germans, Italians and supported by the French, Poles, Soviets, Americans etc.
2. As to German-run, the EU was created as a way to curtail German power. The idea was to integrate the big German state into EU to contain its power. Yes, it will have a lot of say in EU, but it can’t play Bismarckian realpolitik in Europe. Notice that every EU member state has a veto power. This is a big constraint on German power. Notice the Brexit agreement allows the small Ireland to punch its weight way beyond its size and May had to swallow the backstop.
By being a member of EU, Germany gives a great deal of power (especially in foreign policy) to EU where decisions have to be made on consensus.
It has been shown often enough that if enough of the smaller countries work together, they can outvote Germany, even if Germany has the biggest economy and the biggest population (seats in the EU parliament are counted based on the population, but in the other chamber, the council of Ministers, each country has one seat, the same applies to the Commisioners).
3. The “ex colonial power that once ruled 20% of the world” is no more. One should then expect more from Iran - which in 500 BC ruled over 45% to 50% of all of humanity. Or Assyria or Rome or Mongolia etc. powers come and go, nations come and go.
“Keep hoping Boris can get this passed.”
Why??? Have you read anything this about the deal he has reached with the EU??
The EU will still have the right to supercede U.K. sovereign authority and law on matters of the military, foreign policy, law (the EU “court of justice” will still be over U.K. law) and some matters of trade as well. For what? Can anthing be worth all that???
And the alternative is??
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