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This is the deal from Boris.

If he plays it well, he can get it passed by parliament, and the UK out on 31 October with a deal

1 posted on 10/18/2019 12:49:05 AM PDT by Cronos
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Shrewd, moving parts of the deal to non-binding agreement.


2 posted on 10/18/2019 1:07:28 AM PDT by D Rider
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I would call it almost a win-win. EU gets it’s blood money (the 33-billion pounds). UK gets an open-door to trade talks. The Ireland problem would be fairly settled.

I would suggest that this recession going on in Germany helped to motivate some people. The fact that the remain Tories had played out all their cards and couldn’t hinder this anymore....fell into play. I think the EU has figured out that some member states had agendas going to hinder the EU’s own game...played into the last minute talks.

I’ll predict the Trump team is in the UK by early November, and working on a new trade deal. Things look bright for 2020.


3 posted on 10/18/2019 1:14:40 AM PDT by pepsionice
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This is better than May’s shameful surrender treaty. A clean break Brexit would have been much better though.

I can fully understand if a lot of Brits were not willing to support NI having a different legal arrangement than the rest of the UK.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 2:51:51 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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The UK will need to abide by EU rules and pay into the EU budget, but will lose membership of its institutions.

Exqueeze me?!

9 posted on 10/18/2019 3:49:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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I’ll have to look up the actual text of the deal assuming they publish it.

As I understand it, brits would still have to follow a bunch of EU rules so as not to have a competitive advantage over the EU.

E.g. If the EU decides every member must have only 32 hour work weeks, the Brits would follow that rule.

Same goes if EU says we must be carbon neutral by 2025, Brits would follow.

This type of thing flies in the face of the intent of Brexit.

If the EU had stuck with being simply a common market with interior open travel and work and common tariffs, there would never have been a push for Brexit.

Like most government, especially centralized ones, they always devolve to micro management to the chagrin of locals.

At its heart Brexit is a revolt against centralized government which most folks are calling globalism today.


19 posted on 10/18/2019 4:45:41 AM PDT by fruser1
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There is/will be complainers/purists that won’t like this deal.

The problem is that if not this deal there is/would be complainers/purists that wouldn’t like some other deal.

To all the complainers/purists it must be explained (just as we had to do 200 years ago to form the union), that there is no perfect deal, and the best deal we are able to get is better than no deal.

My fear of do deal at all would be new elections in Britain, and a new government and a new referendum on Brexit which, due to the public sentiment over the poor performance in getting to a Brexit deal, would mean a rejection of Brexit.

Johnson got them some deal. Now the U.K. has a chance to just make the best of that deal that they can, and move on.


24 posted on 10/18/2019 6:42:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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Seems like Boris knew what he was doing after all...


27 posted on 10/18/2019 7:58:00 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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