[Zhang Fei]

[Lot more anti-Turk forces here, though.
Though Assad wants the Kurds cleared for refugees in mostly the same places Turkey does.]

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Putin is taking flak for the minimal casualties Russia has incurred in Ukraine. He’s not about to take on the Turks. Given that Russia can’t use its nukes against the Turks, any conflict with large-scale Russian involvement would be an extended war of attrition involving thousands of Russian dead. The Russians aren’t gonna fight the Turks - they’re probably on about the same level, equipment- and proficiency-wise. Maybe if there was any prospect of Syria becoming a de jure Russian oblast. Whereas Turkish gains will probably become de jure Turkish territory in time, the way Turkey grabbed Hatay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatay_State#Background

From an American interest perspective, the issue isn’t so much letting the Syrian Kurds be overrun as a chance at establishing a friendly Middle Eastern state with a path to the sea out of Syrian Kurdistan. One thing’s for sure - this historic opportunity is now purely in the rear view mirror.

[mrsmith]

Syria is now a Russian/China /Iran oblast.
They owe too much to be independent.

Like I said above, this is all to China’s benefit- not ours. The best we can aim for is a neutral Turkey instead of one fully allied with the east.
We won’t gain from A Med-reaching Rojava without outrageous, full-war, costs.
Saw a quote from a International affairs analyst thet Kurdistan could be ‘another Israel’... but at what cost?

Let China pay. They’ll get the benefit!