Posted on 10/16/2019 8:31:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“He didn’t mention that the “process arguments” are “constitutional process” arguments. “
Hogwash.
Unmitigated bullsh!t.
This argument on the right that the House is bound to historic procedures is ludicrous, an argument for the ignorant.
Every two years there is another Congress. And every Congress can make their own procedural rules, to include impeachment.
What happens prior to that yes/no vote is immaterial and there is no authority on earth that can compel the House otherwise.
“Justice Roberts”
Has no authority whatsoever in an impeachment.
His role is purely ceremonial.
House rules have no bearing whatsoever.
Every Congress makes their own rules and is not bound by previous rules.
Or the Senate can pass a rule that requires any impeachment re feral follow a specific method before it be accepted.
- require a recorded vote of the full house before the impeachment proceedings begin.
- require that the target of the impeachment be granted the same due process as afforded in the courts to grand jury proceedings.
etc.
But they have to vote on that to do it.
“But they have to vote on that to do it. “
No, they don’t.
They can choose to operate entirely without any rules, ignoring all past rules, and never hold a vote on it.
And there’s no authority on earth that can say otherwise.
Well, except the voters. And each House member must face the voters every two years.
Because she is trying to salvage some of the savable rat seats. She knows it will be a disaster for the rodents; so in the end she will use the excuse she she is even now trying to think up to not do it and save face.
Then if they choose to just ignore the existing rules then it will be the end of any house procedural rules. Because in your scenario all established procedural rules do is limit the party in power setting them. Thus, why have them at all. Not disagreeing with you here on the reality of a pure power play, just mourning the death of the republic.
“What is Speaker Nancy Pelosi worried about?”?
Pelosi is afraid to have her members who are in traditionally red districts vote for impeachment as they already are on shakey ground when it comes to their re-elections.
That along with giving republicans some power in the the whole shebang.
we need to notify our representatives that since they are conducting an inquiry without a vote we will assume they voted for the inquiry and remember it at election time..take the offensive..
Our congressional leaders and President Trump should publicize this..imo
no vote = support for impeachment
“Pelosi is afraid to have her members who are in traditionally red districts vote for impeachment as they already are on shakey ground when it comes to their re-elections.”
Which shows they never intended to hold an up/down impeachment vote prior to the election.
Correct.
NOt their intentions.
Simply want the ability to continually show The Donald in unflattering light to stroke their base.
They have a new hit piece on Trump now.
https://apple.news/AvpIjcTLmT3aZ6upBH4SV6w
Can’t the Republicans in the house call for a vote? Seems to me even putting forth a motion to vote on the vote would drive the Democrats into the sunlight and scald ‘em.
Why, is she delaying it? Because she knows it will energize Republicans and most independents and bury the Democratic Party sweeping her out of all the money and power she has as Speaker of the House.
I wonder if Pelosi was just waiting for the DNC presidential debates to end so that none of the candidates would have to comment on the vote. They all seem to be “For” impeachment. But if a vote were actually taken there would be immediate feedback from the public that would only really take shape a couple of weeks later — meanwhile Joe, Kamala, Lizzy & Bernie have all “taken a position” that might be repudiated by the voting public.
Is this what they are hoping for?
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies
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