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Trump’s Syrian Maneuver Works – President Erdogan Asks for Negotiations With Kurds in Syria
CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE ^ | 10/14/2019 | SUNDANCE

Posted on 10/14/2019 5:59:43 PM PDT by bitt

President Trump has played this out perfectly. By isolating Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and effectively leaving him naked to an alliance of his enemies, Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces.

This request happens immediately after President Trump signed an executive order [See Here] triggering the sanction authority of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Erdogan called the White House requesting an urgent phone call with President Trump.

After President Trump talked to Kurdish General Mazloum Kobani Abdi, the commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, President Trump then discussed the options available to President Erdogan. As a result of that conversation, Erdogan requested the U.S. mediate negotiations. Vice-President Mike Pence announces he will be traveling to the region with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien to lead that effort. WATCH:

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To: Veto!

You have internet access and a brain.

Why not use both?


61 posted on 10/14/2019 7:26:17 PM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Veto!

You have internet access and a brain.

Why not use both?


62 posted on 10/14/2019 7:26:19 PM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Veto!

You are welcome and thank you for reading those.

Kurds have been helpful, but we are not indebted to them.

We gave them life from what they were destined to have, trained and handsomely paid them, and gave them far more than they could ever have hoped to get from any other entity in the world, a million times over.

We don’t owe a single dime or US life to them.


63 posted on 10/14/2019 7:28:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: seowulf

Throw in Brexit, & Merkel demanding invasion be stopped, and we have the events necessary to realign NATO.


64 posted on 10/14/2019 7:31:04 PM PDT by SloppyDrummer (There's a place for us...)
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To: Veto!
Kurds are Christians. And allies. I think.

No, most Kurds are Muslim, although I don't see what difference that makes. And the Kurds in general are allies, particularly the ones from northern Iraq. The actual fighting groups in Syria are hard core Marxist revolutionaries. They are allied with the USA and others against ISIS and other parties, but they aren't necessarily on our side in general.

Having them reach a deal with the Syrian government is a good idea since it should avoid a war between them and the Syrian government. It is also good to expand the Syrian government's area of control and influence.

And as a bonus, Assad and his Russian allies know how to keep the ISIS prisoners from causing any more trouble. The Syrian Army won't have much trouble defeating the rebel forces doing the dirty work for Turkey and Turkey must work out a deal that leads to peace with the Syrian government.

65 posted on 10/14/2019 7:40:11 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: rfp1234
A few Kurds are Christian, but most are Sunni Muslims. <<

and any time you can have muslims fighting muslims its a WIN-WIN situation......Arm both sides and let attrition do its job!...

66 posted on 10/14/2019 7:47:58 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: hardspunned; bitt; little jeremiah; a little elbow grease

I think I’ve read that the Gulf Cooperation Council has 350,000 “friendly” ME troops under arms to protect the region.

The syrian army stepping in to defend the syrian kurds could be part of this new alliance?


67 posted on 10/14/2019 7:48:41 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Jane Long

Plenty of them bashing President Trump on Fox today, also.

And, right here on FR, too :(
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Funny...

I don’t see them on this thread. They must be having some yummy crow for dinner. Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hot steaming crow on a bed of hot steaming bovine scat.

BTW personally I could give a damn what happens to the Maoist Muslim Kurds. Everyone is insisting they were screaming America Akbar while storming Raqqa to take back THEIR land. It was Allah Akbar. It was not for us. It was for them. Yes, they are Maoist for the most part, at least in Syria.


68 posted on 10/14/2019 7:52:29 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: Veto!

Every Kurd in Syria is worth exactly Zero American lives. We helped them get rid ofISIS, who they we’re fighting anyways. We aren’t responsible for the Kurds just because we helped them defeat a common enemy You may want to read up on the Kurds and their religion.

“A majority of Kurds belong to the Shafi‘i school of Sunni Islam, but significant numbers practise Shia Islam and Alevism, while some are adherents of Yarsanism, Yazidism, Zoroastrianism and Christianity.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds


69 posted on 10/14/2019 7:53:13 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Veto!

Largely Maoist Commies to boot. Too lazy to google it for you but just google Maoist Kurds. There is a georgetown think tank paper that lays it our nicely.


70 posted on 10/14/2019 7:56:21 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: bitt

I thought the neocons and 75% of FR THOUGHT TRUMP sold the Kurds out without a plan or a thought.

Btw - screw the never trumps and the fair weather friends. PRESIDENT TRUMP will end up making a mistake sooner or later. Who will stand with him in those times. I will. The GOPe will not. Most republicans will not. I will. Not because he is always right. Not because he is special but because he is one of the few who cares.


71 posted on 10/14/2019 7:56:26 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: Ken H

You’re right and I did:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/10/glick-trump-did-not-betray-kurds-caroline-glick/


72 posted on 10/14/2019 7:58:57 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: ConservativeMind

THANKS. I did read a bit and liked this informative article:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/10/glick-trump-did-not-betray-kurds-caroline-glick/


73 posted on 10/14/2019 8:00:45 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: jospehm20

Thank you. And I found this very interesting analysis at frontpage:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/10/glick-trump-did-not-betray-kurds-caroline-glick/


74 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:54 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: hardspunned

To be fair the hysteria may have been necessary to get all the players to fall for it. Meanwhile the special operators may be needed elsewhere soon.


75 posted on 10/14/2019 8:12:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

“Largely Maoist Commies to boot. Too lazy to google it for you but just google Maoist Kurds. There is a georgetown think tank paper that lays it our nicely.”
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Dude, you can say they’re mostly Maoist a million times - it doesn’t make it true. I really don’t have a major problem with Trump pulling out of most of Syria and I certainly won’t stop supporting him What really pisses me off though is to suddenly see SOME FReepers demonizing the KURDS and cheering the Erdogan Turks and their Islamist Arab militias on as they bomb and attack the Kurds. WTF is the matter with you people?


76 posted on 10/14/2019 8:21:20 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping...

Is it true we’ve left 50 Nukes over there?


77 posted on 10/14/2019 8:22:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Elizabeth Warren Is Jussie Smollett - - Kevin D. Williamson)
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To: wgmalabama

Great post!


78 posted on 10/14/2019 8:23:33 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: bitt

I just love President Trump! He is a stable genius!


79 posted on 10/14/2019 8:23:50 PM PDT by Lopeover (We Are #TRUMPSTRONG)
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To: House Atreides

Go read up. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/the-kurdish-path-to-socialism-in-syria

Syrian Kurds are mostly Maoists. Sorry. You can carp all you want but it will not change the facts on the ground.


80 posted on 10/14/2019 8:33:57 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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