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1 posted on 10/14/2019 6:27:30 AM PDT by karpov
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"As government grows, so do the challenges of supervising a bureaucracy swelling in both size and power."

We saw this with the Roman empire. It caused many problems and contributed to its demise. Also with the large socialist states throughout history. It always leads to widespread corruption.

2 posted on 10/14/2019 6:33:12 AM PDT by circlecity
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The “deep state”—if we are to use the term—is better defined as consisting of career civil servants, who have growing power in the administrative state but work in the shadows. As government grows, so do the challenges of supervising a bureaucracy swelling in both size and power.

Oh stop it WSJ. Of course you guys are in on the corruption too. The civil service is a small part of the "deep state" that extends to all of the NGOs, consultancies and private "support service contractors" in the DC area. It includes all the folks in the "private sector" who earn a very good keep "assisting" 3rd world countries with applying for World Bank loans they will never be able to repay. It includes all the "beltway bandits" providing viewgraphs for pentagon officials trying to flog to other pentagon officials some new scheme for fleacing the taxpayer for some new defense project. It includes K-street of course, but hey those guys are at least honest whore who actually have to provide their paymasters value for money. It's the guy who consults for folks on "internet policy" or the gal who specializes in aranging poverty or AIDs tours to Africa for "fact-fiding"

The DC deepstate are the 96% in DC who voted against Trump and their counterparts in the surrounding mansion inflated "bedroom" communities.

Yes the upper level civil service are certainly part of it. But all they get out of it is a barely adequate by DC standars paycheck - admittedly for a job not worth doing at that requires no real skills.

3 posted on 10/14/2019 6:35:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Another department colleague emailed: “Thank you AG Yates. I’ve been in civil/appellate for 30 years and have never seen an administration with such contempt for democratic values and the rule of law.”

Stuff like this boggles my mind. How can anyone think this?

6 posted on 10/14/2019 6:39:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Didn’t POSObama clamp down on whistleblowers?


7 posted on 10/14/2019 6:39:17 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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I put a hold at the library on Ms. Strassel’s new book “Resistance (at All Costs): How Trump Haters Are Breaking America.” It comes out tomorrow.

Ms. Strassel is a real warrior in the fight against government corruption and the deep state permanent government.


12 posted on 10/14/2019 7:23:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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For a long time I have been saying that the largest government lobby group is the ‘government employees’.

Especially in local elections the government employees are a large bloc of voters who control the result. If the government employees do not have enough votes to sway the election, then they call a ‘special election’ where fewer voters cast their vote.


13 posted on 10/14/2019 7:26:00 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the carrier of the plague. You have unbarred the gates of Rome to him.”

Taylor Caldwell in her novel based on the life of Cicero, A Pillar of Iron


15 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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Yep the true problem is the size of the bureaucracy. Until we cut it in half the problem will never go away.


16 posted on 10/14/2019 8:21:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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An out of control bureaucracy is what brought down several Chinese dynasties.


17 posted on 10/14/2019 8:22:51 AM PDT by Don Corleone (nothing upsets the left more than the truth)
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I remember reading a book back in the 1980s called “Nomenklatura”. Sounds familiar. From Dictionary.com: a select list or class of people from which appointees for top-level government positions are drawn, especially from a Communist Party. https://www.amazon.com/Nomenklatura-Soviet-Ruling-Michael-Voslensky/dp/0385176570/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nomenklatura&qid=1570892149&s=books&sr=1-1


18 posted on 10/14/2019 8:39:43 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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NYTimes Opinion Columnist: Trump is Right. But The “Deep State” Are The "Good Guys!” Source: AP
Below is a direct quote from James B. Stewart, New York Times’ columnist, this past few days on NBC’s Today Show.
“What Trump calls the ‘deep state’ in the United States is protecting the American people and protecting the Constitution. It’s a positive thing in this sense.”

What this dedicated STATEist & LEFTist (and his numerous cohorts of the 'intelligentsia' elites) leaves out is the fact that these bureaucrats are neither elected nor subject to the restraints on abuse of power derived through the Founder's 'Checks & Balances' controls!

19 posted on 10/14/2019 11:02:42 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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Nobody elected Sally Yates.


20 posted on 10/15/2019 12:25:16 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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Subordinates fawningly praised her in emails.

“You are my new hero,” wrote one federal prosecutor.

Another department colleague emailed: “Thank you AG Yates.”


21 posted on 10/15/2019 12:28:02 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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