CA Democrats Expand Red Flag Law Again, Lengthen Confiscatory Period

Breitbart ^ | 13 Oct 2019 | AWR Hawkins

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Democrats expanded California’s Red Flag Law again by lengthening the confiscatory period and broadening the number of people who can push for confiscation to begin with. California’s Red Flag statute is referred to as a Gun Violence Restraining Order. The orders were adopted in 2016, after being pushed as a means of temporarily taking guns away from dangerous people. The confiscatory period was one year when the orders first became law, but the Associated Press reports that Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a bill Friday that allows the confiscatory period to expand to five years.

Moreover, the bill signed by Newsom allows “employers, co-workers and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders against other people.” Gun Violence Restraining Orders originally only allowed family members to seek confiscatory orders against an individual.

The lengthening of the confiscatory period and the broadening of those who can seek is at least the third expansion of California’s Red Flag Law in as many years.

For example, in late 2018, California Democrat lawmakers complained that not enough family members were availing themselves of the confiscatory law. On September 19, 2018, the Los Angeles Times reported that Los Angeles City Atty. Mike Feuer wanted a public campaign to encourage more people to pursue such orders against family members.

Democrat lawmakers responded to Feuer and others by putting forward changes making it easier to get an order to confiscate guns from an individual. On September 29, 2018, Reuters reported that Gov. Brown signed the changes.

On January 1, 2019, changes took effect that broadened California’s confiscatory law so as to include ammunition and certain magazines. KRCR reported that the changes “[add] ammunition and bullet drums to the list of items related to firearms that can be confiscated.”

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

So if I’m harrassed by a member of the Bloods, Crips, or Avenues gangs, the state will take their guns away, right?

[Newbomb Turk]

You heart goes out to all of you good people who have to live under these communists running you state. You will never get your state back unless its at the barrel end of a gun.

[Big Red Badger]

Five Years,,,
All will be Junk.

[Lurkinanloomin]

American citizens need to evacuate Mexifornia and return to the USA.

[LouAvul]

Kalifornia is its own little dictatorship. Whatever their oligarchy does is immune from federal censure or prosecution. The feds won't do a thing. About anything.

It's Stalin's and Mao's and Hitler's dream come true.

Legal narcotics. Addicts all over the state. No laws against stealing or dealing or shooting up or .........

What a dump. An absolute sewer.

[butlerweave]

California wants to be Great like Venezuela

[rustyboots]

Part of the law also states they will honor orders from other states. My cynical mind wonders if California issues such an order and you live in another state, will they expect that state to confiscate your firearms? If your liberal brother thinks you are a danger and he talks to you once a week and you end up arguing over politics, will that count if he lives in California and you live in Texas??
I know...PARANOIA!

[ThunderSleeps]

Exactly why I’m against red flag laws. Shocking no one, it is getting tougher to get rights restored, and easier to take them away. Once you open the door, the leftists will just keep pushing. “Common sense” works as a sound bite, then they push on from there. No more. No compromise.

[justme4now]

Heller, Caetano v Massachusetts

It is settled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms that applies against both the Federal Government and the States.
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570 (2008);
McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U. S. 742 (2010).

McDonald v. City of Chicago, case in which on June 28, 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled (5–4) that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” applies to state and local governments as well as to the federal government.

We found the argument “that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment” not merely wrong, but “bordering on the frivolous.”
Instead, we held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.”

Heller defined the “Arms” covered by the Second Amendment to include “‘any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.’”

If Heller tells us anything, it is that firearms cannot be categorically prohibited just because they are dangerous.

[clintonh8r]

When people finally wake up and behin to leave in numbers you can bet there will be an exit tax. And it won’t be trivial.

[Gay State Conservative]

Federal courts

[szweig]

Gavin Newsom and the Democrat legislature are loathsome people.

[ZOOKER]

Entirely made-up story:

So I'm sweating in the dark, trying to wind down from another day eating room-temperature formerly-frozen food before I throw it all away tomorrow.

My car's out on the side of the main highway miles away, having run out of charge. I guess I'll miss another day's work since I have no car, and besides I have to watch the house; the security system's down, no street lights and reports of roving looters.

Bored. Guess I'll waste some of my remaining phone charge and catch the news. Hell, maybe the Governor or the Legislature will do something to help the millions of us out here in dire need.

THEY'RE DOING WHAT?

[dynachrome]

Looks like there will be some dead gun owners and maybe some SWAT types. I believe, like here in Colorado when red flag goes into effect next year, the powers that be will pick off low hanging fruit crazies and later go after conservative gun owners.

[Gay State Conservative]

There's Heller and McDonald...but there's another more recent decision that I think is rather hopeful..Catano v Massachusetts.

In this decision SCOTUS struck down...9-0...a decision by the Massachusetts "Supreme Judicial Court" (the highest court in the state) upholding a blatantly unconstitutional law regulating weapons possession.It's worth a read IMO.

Caetano v Massachusetts

[Freedom4US]

Where’s the due process?

Is this one of those anonymous whistlesblower deals? That seems to be the leftist way. Secret, anonymous kangaroo courts.

Thing is, if they don’t want to follow the laws, nobody else will either. Stupid.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Times like this it is useful to take inventory of what firearms the government knows you have and believe they can get to.

Also good to get a book on stashing a firearm.

Years ago, I read that under the burned out Jesse James farm house in Missouri, was found a gallon jar full of hog lard. In all that hog lard was a pistol well hidden.

The government knows I have a CMP rifle. Can’t hide it.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If it’s time to be burying guns, it’s really time to be digging them up.

[grumpygresh]

“Legal narcotics. Addicts all over the state.”

The illicit drug dealers get a free pass while doctors won’t prescribe opioids because they’ll get screwed by the state.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/painmanagement/painmanagement/74856

Here’s how this applies to guns. Now that any doctor can be charged with a wrongful death if someone improperly took opioids (and other drugs with it), the same legal principle will be used against gun and ammo dealers, gun makers etc. for any gun related death. The corrupt prosecutors are conditioning the juries.

The people are being conditioned to scapegoat whatever demon that the fascists, communists and statists running the state come up with.

As usual, it’s the leftist pols and their police state allies that are the real enemies of freedom.

“The feds won’t do a thing”

Now, you shouldn’t be surprised there. Since when does one of the most heinous and corrupt dojs on the planet care about individual liberties? You think the fat slob bushie and CIA barr cares?