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1 posted on 10/12/2019 8:31:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 10/12/2019 8:33:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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Our Gallant Allies, the Kurds (and other fairy tales)

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/most-folks-who-have-never-been-to-iraq-think-of-the-kurds-as-some-noble-non-islamic-ally-well-theyre-a-bit-better-than-the-typical-islamic-but-not-a-hell-of-a-lot/


3 posted on 10/12/2019 8:43:52 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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Bump


4 posted on 10/12/2019 8:45:57 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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[The final assumption of the narrative regarding Trump’s moves in Syria is that by moving its forces away from the border ahead of the Turkish invasion, Trump harmed regional stability and America’s reputation as a trustworthy ally.

On the latter issue, Trump has spent the better part of his term in office rebuilding America’s credibility as an ally after Obama effectively abandoned the Sunnis and Israel in favor of Iran. To the extent that Trump has harmed US credibility, he didn’t do it in Syria this week by rejecting war with Turkey. He did it last month by failing to retaliate militarily against Iran’s brazen military attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil installations. Whereasthe US has no commitment to protect the Kurds, the US’s central commitment in the Middle East for the past 70 years has been the protection of Saudi oil installations and maintaining the safety of maritime routes in and around the Persian Gulf.

The best move Trump can make now in light of the fake narrative of his treachery towards the Kurds is to finally retaliate against Iran. A well-conceived, and limited US strike against Iranian missile and drone installations would restore America’s posture as the dominant power in the Persian Gulf and prevent the further destabilization of the Saudi regime and the backsliding of the UAE towards Iran.]


5 posted on 10/12/2019 8:47:16 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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OK here is what is happening in Syria. We have 50 troops there plus some weapons makers who are testing weapons in limited live combat conditions. We are keeping this little war going, not to protect the Kurds, but to test military AI. We are literally running product tests for American AI weapons that are being tested on the Turks and Syrians.

This is not a real war. Its a limited battle that we keep going. It’s whole purpose is a test lab. Its like a war game. But in this case its live, so there are real casualties.


7 posted on 10/12/2019 9:00:59 PM PDT by poinq
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Caroline is such a voice of reason when all is said and done.


10 posted on 10/12/2019 9:24:48 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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He didn’t betray America. I don’t care about the Kurds or Syria or the middle east.


12 posted on 10/12/2019 9:47:30 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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here is what is most likely going on in the region:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sA33xhfxYY
Start at around 22:00 go to the end.
What you will find is the narrator shows what Trump has been up to in the Mideast with the Turks.
Evidently, the Kurds,remember that are a huge and diverse group and it’s not out of the realm that some of them would sell out to the deep state and that appears to be what happened.
So it seems the Kurds have been protecting some deep state players as the narrator refers to them which are really cabal players loyal first to 41 then to Hillary and now to possible Jeb and Hillary. It’s not clear but always playing for the illuminati.Anyway they were being protected by the Kurds.It’s feasible since they,Dark CIA, have unlimited money and probably bought the communist part of the kurds, PKG, I think it is, and have been protecting them for some time.
Trump found out and worked a deal with Turkey to take them out. When they are gone Trump will arrange a huge peace deal with many. Possibly, Syria,Russia,Turkey, who knows.But, it will be big and will savage the deep state that is now taking hits all over from Afghanistan to the Ukraine soon Romania and elsewhere.Soon, they will have no place to hide.Though not mentioned a lot of these deep state players have to be the company/cia rouge players,the ones who deal drugs, create isis,other terror outfits, create the arab spring—designed to take out 7 countries is five years, and literally bring chaos to the world for profit.Trump has been going after them since he got in office.
So, this is what is going on with the Kurds. He is not letting them down, they let him down!!He is forced to fight back and he is.Never,never second guess DJT.
22 posted on 10/13/2019 5:48:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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There is a giant fly in the ointment Caroline Glick spreads out.

Her hard links between the YPG and Iran are a fiction of hers, as is her fiction that the YPG and Assad are allies.

Iran has no real trust for any Kurds, as it has its own suppressed Kurdish minority to contend with.

If the YPG and Assad were even on “friendly” terms, Assad would not have suppressed them forever, in the past, until his country was destabilized by a fight that Erdogan was supporting, against Assad.

It is clear that the Pentagon is the organization that sits opposed to major changes in U.S. long term strategic policy. Not surprised there, it has always been the most resistant to change. It prefers the knowns and hates having to figure out how to go with a paradigm change.


26 posted on 10/13/2019 7:21:09 AM PDT by Wuli
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We owe the Kurds nothing. We couldn’t possibly have betrayed them.


28 posted on 10/13/2019 2:17:35 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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That’s why they made a deal with Assad...right?


31 posted on 10/14/2019 1:22:16 PM PDT by Valin
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The Kurds hve fought with us against the Islamofascists, and they have been protecting Christians, Yazidis, and other victims of the jihadis.

Erdogan is an Islamofascist aligned with Russia and Iran. He is an enemy of the US and the Wet, despite Turkey’s membership in NATO.

I’m not sure Erdogan will let us just stand aside. I think he wants a fight with the US, which will draw Russia and Iran into the fight to support him, and then he intends to invoke Article 5 and try to get NATO to fight us. The Islamists WANT a world war to hasten the arrival of the Twelfth Imam.


32 posted on 10/15/2019 9:59:49 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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