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This is what people are going to get as more healthcare comes under government control, more administrative services and less healthcare.

And BTW, the bureaucrats will decide what you should like and what's good for you.

Is this what people want? I have been quite dismayed at the number of conservatives that aren't outraged by this garbage. Healthcare will never have value when it's "free"

1 posted on 10/11/2019 7:20:37 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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the “middlemen” insurance companies are the problem. They are raping the system to death.


2 posted on 10/11/2019 7:53:09 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Despite paying $17k annually out of pocket for insurance with deductibles averaging $9k, we’re still denied access to timely care. The ACA is a disaster.

Democrats are evil control freaks


3 posted on 10/11/2019 7:57:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I have said for years that “insurance” was never the cost problem. In the 80s & 90s I worked for a non-profit pension and insurance outfit, when everyone was screaming at the big increases in health insurance.

Our health insurance plan was a well administered self-insured plan. Like any health insurance plan we set premiums every year based on what we thought our claims costs would be, our costs to a third-party administrator of claims submissions and disbursements, a reserve for softening a premium increase, a stop loss re-insurance policy for catastrophic claims in a single year, and the cost of administration. These were all just basic insurance costs, there was no “profits”. Our premium increases in those years were in line with the national averages (and we had insured persons nationwide).

If our premiums went up, just as when the for-profit insurance sector’s premiums went up, it was never due to increasing insurance “profits”; it was always increasing costs of claims due to increased cost demands from the health care industrial complex.

Meanwhile, driven mostly by the Dims, everyone’s attention was diverted to blaming “the high cost of insurance”, and controlling or subsidizing “insurance”, instead of the true problem - the health care industrial complex. The net result was government programs “insuring” the health care industrial complex got its demands met, without having to cut its costs.

What is needed is to get the consumer in the driver seat on most incidental medical costs, through sizeable health savings accounts and just plain “out of pocket” expemses, and “insurance” limited to just the most catastrophic needs.


6 posted on 10/11/2019 8:24:52 AM PDT by Wuli
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In this life you need to take care of your own health and not rely on doctors or the medical establishment


7 posted on 10/11/2019 8:50:18 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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