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Grizzly Bear Attack in Montana Stopped with 9mm Pistols
Ammoland ^ | 7 October, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/10/2019 5:31:29 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

From that article:

“Chris believes it was probably the same bear. He thinks the bear spray used in the attack 11 hours and less than a mile away, likely aggravated the second attack.”

I re-read the article and as best I can tell, thats the first mention of a an earlier bear attack in the area. A little confusing.


21 posted on 10/10/2019 7:27:32 AM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: marktwain
Professional wildlife biologists carrying FMJ in their pistols? In bear country, hard-cast lead would have been a better choice. At least hollow-points, good grief. But I guess the FMJs worked.
22 posted on 10/10/2019 7:32:58 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I’ve shot a Glock 18. That is fun, right there.


23 posted on 10/10/2019 7:33:36 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: old curmudgeon

I posted about it before I read your post about hard-cast...


24 posted on 10/10/2019 7:35:00 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

FMJ penetrates nearly as well as hard-cast.

Hard-cast does better because of heavier bullets used.

FMJ 147 gr penetrates about 40 - 50 inches of gel.

They were probably using 124 gr.

124 gr FMJ at 1200 penetrates about 24 inches of gel, as I recall.


25 posted on 10/10/2019 8:19:03 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Beretta 93R. The preferred weapon of Mack Bolan. IIRC, he carried two, suppressed. 8~)


26 posted on 10/10/2019 8:24:55 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: marktwain

My parents rented a small home to a wildlife biologist. They live a most interesting solitary life, full of page-turning adventure. Like leg-snarling adult grizzlies for tagging.


27 posted on 10/10/2019 9:47:56 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

.. Just bought a quick clot kit for my upcoming Elk hunt. “

Be careful with QuickClot. My son was an air base Fire/ EMT in Iraq. They had to be very careful using it, because if the QC is inhaled it will close up your lungs and kill you.


28 posted on 10/10/2019 10:37:04 AM PDT by myerson
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To: OKSooner

That’s No “Legend!”


29 posted on 10/10/2019 11:18:01 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: moovova

There is a great bear-attack scene in the movie Revenant. It prolly accurately conveys the speed at which a bear attack can occur. Shocking! 2-3 seconds if lucky!


30 posted on 10/10/2019 2:11:42 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: myerson

Thanks for that tip.


31 posted on 10/10/2019 4:54:56 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: OKSooner

Bella Twin
Was Her Name.


32 posted on 10/10/2019 7:37:11 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: JudgemAll

Hair gets pushed into the holes. It’s a limiting factor in penetration.


33 posted on 10/10/2019 8:37:32 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: SgtHooper

I saw that movie! It was a brutal scene and it happened fast.


34 posted on 10/11/2019 4:24:22 AM PDT by moovova (You can't buy it back if you didn't sell it to me.)
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To: Big Red Badger
Yes, that name sounds familiar, having read about it several times. By referring to it as a legend, I didn't mean to diminish the fact that she really did kill a monster bear with a .22.

To the contrary, I meant to hold it up as an example of something exceptional that neither you nor I nor any other mortal would ever pull off without divine intervention, which probably was involved in her case too.

Hence, her story is now legend, and not a fairy tale nor a semantic point. :)

35 posted on 10/11/2019 6:23:49 AM PDT by OKSooner (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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To: OKSooner

Agreed,
The Photos of
Her are Amazing!


36 posted on 10/11/2019 6:40:56 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: OKSooner

Even the largest caliber conventional handguns are generally inadequate for stopping threatening critters, two or four legged.

Carrying something is better than nothing. The bows and arrows are much more effective at killing, but the carry 9s are accessible and useful....

I built a 450 Bushmaster AR 10.5 inch pistol. 14 rounds of 300 grn 45s at 1400fps ought to be about right.


37 posted on 10/11/2019 7:14:40 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: OKSooner
Here is the definitive article on handguns and bears on Ammoland:

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/08/handgun-or-pistol-defense-against-bear-attack-73-cases-96-effective/

Data on calibers from .22 to .460 S&W magnum.

38 posted on 10/12/2019 8:50:01 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
Thanks for the information, and thanks for compiling it all and publishing it.

Fortunately, for me, it's mostly for academic interest only, however, my wife and I do visit the mountains of New Mexico every few years, so maybe not.

My own inclination would be to carry the handgun in the most powerful caliber I own, which as of right now would be a .357.

Maybe someday I'll need a big bore...

39 posted on 10/13/2019 6:16:51 PM PDT by OKSooner (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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