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FLASHBACK: In 2004, The U.S. Senate Was Warned That Climate Change is a Hoax
Big League Politics ^ | October 9, 2019 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 10/09/2019 3:22:11 AM PDT by Moseley

We actually do not know how much carbon dioxide was in Earth’s atmosphere prior to the 1930s. Devices to reliably measure carbon dioxide in the air went through painstaking, slow, bumpy development. Instruments did not really come into their own until around 1930.

Because we don’t know the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere, climate change proponents depend upon unreliable “proxies.” They substitute gas pockets retrieved from ice core samples from deep within ancient glaciers. They hope this will tell us Earth’s ancient atmosphere and the concentration of CO2 in the air.

Speculation that air pockets remain exactly the same over hundreds to millions of years has never been tested. And what is the margin of error of an ice core sample?

Arguing that A causes B requires measurements with a known margin of error. We can’t model a phenomenon in inches if the data was measured in miles. Proxy measurements from ice core air samples cannot prove global warming caused by carbon dioxide. The margins of error are too wide and highly unpredictable.

In 2004 the U.S. Senate was fully briefed on the falsehood of man-made global warming. The U.S. Government clearly knows that we cannot measure carbon dioxide earlier than 1900 to 1930.

Prof. Zbigniew Jaworowski testified before the U.S. Senate on March 13, 2004:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carbondioxide; climatechangefraud; dncstrategy; envirowhackos; gaspockets; globalwarming; hoax; icecores; radicalleft
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Improper manipulation of data, and arbitrary rejection of readings that do not fit the pre-conceived idea on man-made global warming is common in many glaciological studies of greenhouse gases. In peer reviewed publications I exposed this misuse of science.

The basis of most of the IPCC conclusions on anthropogenic causes and on projections of climatic change is the assumption of low level of CO2 in the pre-industrial atmosphere. This assumption, based on glaciological studies, is false. Therefore IPCC projections should not be used for national and global economic planning.

Prof. Zbigniew Jaworowski. Chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland, Statement before the US Senate Committee

on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, March 19, 2004

Prof. Jaworowski explained why chemistry, including intense pressure under the weight of layers of glacial ice, change the air sample from its original composition:

More than 20 physico-chemical processes, mostly related to the presence of liquid water, contribute to the alteration of the original chemical composition of the air inclusions in polar ice.

One of these processes is formation of gas hydrates or clathrates. In the highly compressed deep ice all air bubbles disappear, as under the influence of pressure the gases change into the solid clathrates, which are tiny crystals formed by interaction of gas with water molecules. Drilling decompresses cores excavated from deep ice, and contaminates them with the drilling fluid filling the borehole.

* * * After decompression of the ice cores, the solid clathrates decompose into a gas form, exploding in the process as if they were microscopic grenades. In the bubble-free ice the explosions form a new gas cavities and new cracks. Through these cracks, and cracks formed by sheeting, a part of gas escapes first into the drilling liquid which fills the borehole, and then at the surface to the atmospheric air.

* * * This leads to depletion of CO2 in the gas trapped in the ice sheets. This is why the records of CO2 concentration in the gas inclusions from deep polar ice show the values lower than in the contemporary atmosphere, even for the epochs when the global surface temperature was higher than now.


1 posted on 10/09/2019 3:22:11 AM PDT by Moseley
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2 posted on 10/09/2019 3:31:32 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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Flashback. When I was in high school in the 70’s they told us we would all be froze to death by now. Swing and a miss on that one.

3 posted on 10/09/2019 4:12:37 AM PDT by shelterguy
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For 40 years they have been prognosticating warming doom, even giving dates of destruction, and I have said “Nope, won’t happen”.

I have been right 100 percent of the time and they have been wrong 100 percent of the time.

4 posted on 10/09/2019 4:23:29 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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2007 The US MAT.Com

Scientific reports from Canada and Greenland has indicated that the the shrinking arctic ice sheets have begun to replace themselves rapidly. Strongly suggesting the earth instead of warming, is beginning to cool down. It is still not known (or proven) if this is the result because of the reduced rate of sun spot activity.

Canadian geo scientist Professor R. Timothy Patterson of Carelton University is urging a go-slow on the rush for governments to “Play God” with global warming legislative blaming this on CO2 (carbon dioxide) discharges. Legislating corrections attempting to control a natural cyclic occurrence caused by; sun spots, the magnetic solar wind, and cyclic earth magnetic polarity reversal, among other natural occurrences including volcanism, meteors etc. Probably plays a very significant role in climate change. Yet ignorantly blaming man made CO2 emissions for climatic change. which is becoming a rapidly discredited and minuscule cause of global warming in his article published by Canada’s Financial Post. 6/20/07

Patterson was selected by the Canadian government to study the fluctuations in certain types of fish populations.
While doing so the Canadian Geo-Scientist found a correlation when certain species of fish had high population and then drastic drop offs. He discovered these fluctuations corresponded with sun spot activity and solar radiation vs cosmic activity. When earth cooling occurred.

Studying deep fjords along the Western Canadian coast where deep pools of low oxidation water exist. The Patterson study reached deep into the earths recent past of 4000 years of undisturbed sediments. Patterson found that when aquatic activity was highest and lowest in those collected sediments having high aquatic content had matched known solar protection when the magnetic wind was highest, and dropped off when earth magnetic fields activities were lowest.Thus causing cosmic radiation to intensify.

Then because the earth became unprotected by its magnetic fields from galactic cosmic activity. Patterson cites several accepted theories which concludes this then created cloud activity during such periods which increased drastically. Thus cooling earth and bringing in its ice ages.

In his presentation here is a professor urging more scientific study (like Pope Benedict)is needed. That politicians including Al Gore, of The Earth Is Flat Society, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. Strongly suggesting that the global warming may be caused by exhaling politicos rather than serious scientific examination.

Patterson seems to be saying before Canadians start investing in palm trees they should be considering better parkas because what goes up must come down and the Mexicans better move over for a reverse population flow. The story was featured in The Drudge Report, and World Net Daily, which were linked in The US Mat’s last page. But lost due to source link changes .

5 posted on 10/09/2019 4:37:48 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting fobills are nr the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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As we’ve observed the Truth is not relevant. The climate BS is everything to the rats. Power, control and unlimited funding. For this reason every finding that exposes the fraud is buried. Just 2 weeks ago 500 scientists sent a letter to the UN exposing the hoax. You won’t find 2 people that know that.

6 posted on 10/09/2019 4:53:13 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Moseley
One of several things missing from that opinion piece is the explanation for the current annual rise of 2.5 to 3 ppm per year. Is it offgassing from the oceans? Some portions of the ocean offgas CO2 that upwells from the deep ocean. But net the ocean is a sink with dropping pH. It could still come from the ocean if there are biological changes in the ocean causing both the pH drop and atmospheric rise.

But those are not identified by any scientists mentioned in the piece. Nor have they suggested volcanoes or massive past warming causing more off gassing from warming of the deep ocean. That warming would have to be well over 12C over the past 1000 years.

In short, there's never any explanation of where the rise in CO2 is coming from if it is natural as they allege. They also didn't explain the other proxies like fossil leaf stomata see "Reading a CO2 signal from fossil stomata" by Beerling and Royer.

7 posted on 10/09/2019 5:07:31 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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I'm watching the GM strike because my grandson is doing his work/study semester and working part time in Lockport NY.

The Union is pushing the damn electric cars. Since when is that a Union function.

GM has given the employees a good offer. The employees shouldn't be RUNNING the company and neither should the Union.

I do think the Union is trying to ruin the economy.....and that is the ONLY reason this strike continues.

The Union is duping the employees.

8 posted on 10/09/2019 5:08:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I have said since this whole thing started the following:
Don’t know if global warming is happening or how fast.
Don’t know if it’s good or bad.
Don’t know if we or CO2 are the cause.
Don’t therefore know if we can do anything about it.
Do know every living thing expels or ingests CO2 and without it there would not be life. It is therefore the essence of “sustainability”.
At this time of year as the leaves fall remember every last one was CO2 at one time.

9 posted on 10/09/2019 5:12:56 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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“You won’t find 2 people that know that.”

Surely you misunderestimate me, I have already found two, you and now that I have read your post, ME!

I have never believed in AGW. I am more scientific. I predict a hard winter because I keep thinking I need to buy a used four wheel drive truck, the last time I did that was in the late ‘80s and we had a bad streak of snow and ice here (the intersection of I-95 and I-20 and I really needed it and was very glad to have it. No doubt my intuition will be proven correct again.

10 posted on 10/09/2019 5:18:50 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I need some green first and then we'll talk a new deal!
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Also those Vostok ice core samples strongly implied that CO2 levels LAGGED increases in global temperatures.

Today the false narrative is CO2 CAUSES and LEADS increases in global temperatures. But then again, that fact would mean there is no anthropogenic boogie man than can become the hammer on governments of the world.

11 posted on 10/09/2019 5:30:00 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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I have been thinking of buying a used electric golf cart so that my wife and I could use it to ride around our little place when we feel like it. I was aware that many people use gasoline powered carts but was a little surprised to find that, according to the new cart dealers, electrics are falling out of favor. Are we switching to electric cars and AWAY from electric golf carts? If so I would expect the price of USED electric carts to be lower than they are. I personally want an electric because I want to hear the birds sing rather than an engine.

12 posted on 10/09/2019 5:33:54 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I need some green first and then we'll talk a new deal!
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For sure!!

And there are MANY college professors who have made/are making princely salaries and prestigious careers out of hawking this drivel.

Our campuses are positively AWASH in grant money and they are all scrambling to stuff their pockets. It’s like sharks on the blood scent and positively nauseating the extent to which these (otherwise unemployable) clowns will sell themselves, all because of their unprincipled selfishness

THAT is what drives the ‘climate’ hoax within American Universities.

13 posted on 10/09/2019 5:45:56 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: RipSawyer

Electric golf cart;
Keep it charged: daily
Be prepared to replace all batteries every 2-3 years at $100-150 each(6-9)
Keep the battery acid full
Replace copper cables as they corrode away.
Will only get an hour or two on hilly terrain, double that on flat ground.
Run around vehicle on 20 acres? OK but it outstanding.
I prefer my gas Gator!

14 posted on 10/09/2019 5:57:38 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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Type in on a search engine: The end is near
Click on images.

15 posted on 10/09/2019 6:01:24 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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To: Moseley

Lots of good information in there. Thanks for posting.

16 posted on 10/09/2019 6:37:18 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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But the claim that CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere can only date from 1930.

The machine for measuring CO2 in the air was not perfected and put into service until 1930.

So if you claim an increase in CO2 from 1930 to 2019, how meaningful is that?

17 posted on 10/09/2019 6:40:24 AM PDT by Moseley (
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Follow the unconstitutional federal spending.

18 posted on 10/09/2019 8:55:16 AM PDT by Amendment10
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There are other proxies they don't mention showing thousands of years of lower CO2. Those are inexact just like the ice cores. But they aren't the wrong sign. Another flaw in their argument is that chrmical analysis has been used since 1812:

The increase from 1930 to today is more accurate than any of those but is much larger than any increase measured by the old methods. Stomata records have shown up to 60 ppm per century (IIRC) and we will soon have a rate of increase of 60 ppm per 20 years. Also the rise from 1930 must be explained. Can't simply say because prior knowledge is imperfect the current rise could be natural. It requires a explanation. There's a well-supported manmade explanation, and no natural explanation that I have read about.

19 posted on 10/09/2019 12:07:02 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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Every leaf on the ground turns back into CO2 as the leaves decompose. Microbes are responsible. Ever notice how light punked firewood is? Same microbes turned it into CO2. The easiest way to figure that out is to weight the leaf litter: The loss of weight of the leaf litter is equal to the weight of CO2 up in the atmosphere.

20 posted on 10/09/2019 12:13:09 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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