Who cares if we betray allies? Trump has real estate investments in Istanbul and that is frankly more important than some dead Kurds. Ha Ha, Kurds what a funny name!
The Turks are holding about 2 million Syrian refugees. They want to send them home and have them be safe. They want to do that by taking about a 30 mile swath of northern Syrian and setting up a protectorate area.
Many of the Kurds are PKK, an identified terrorist group that hates Turkey. They will do what they can to destroy any initiative on Turkey’s part.
So, the issue isn’t ONLY abandoning the Kurds. It’s safely repatriating a couple million Syrians back to their own country. The alternative for Turkey is to send them to Europe. The bottom line, then, is that Trump is helping Europe more than Europe helps Europe. But for the repatriation to be effective, the Kurdish terrorist groups need to be controlled.
In the meantime, the US Troops will just be cannon fodder for some group to attack to try to get the US involved.
Trump’s making a decent decision here. But all we’ll hear is that the Kurds are being betrayed. That’s by those who are into empire building by the USA.
I can only imagine what the threads would look like here on FR if the Chinese government started maintaining diplomatic and military ties to La Raza or Black Lives Matter.
If you owe 10 times what you earn, and are piling on more debt, you are flat broke. US is in that boat currently.
So essentially we go in debt to Japan, China and others to protect oil supplies from middle-east going to Japan & China. We no longer need the middle-east and their oil. Let them manage their own 1400 year wars among themselves.
Kurds hate the Turks, Iraq, and the Syrian governments. We made a deal with them to give them guns. They use the guns to hold mountain positions inside of Turkey, Syria and IRAQ. All three countries hate the Kurds. The Kurds are lawless people who kill people who trespass in their regions. Its like if we had Apache’s still active in the Dakota mountains but with rocket launchers and machine guns. Or consider Mexican gangs.
I don’t say that the Kurds don’t have a right to exist. They do have a right to exist. But they never seem to get along with anybody else except the US. And they get along with us because we pay them huge amounts to fight for us. And when we go, they are left with money and guns until it runs out. Then they have to make a deal to survive. This game has been being played for over a hundred years.
If you’re going to piss and moan never-Trumper style that much about it then why don’t you contact you congressman and demand that they declare war on Syria?
Kurds what a funny name
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LOL you have a whey with words...
hallelujah! Somebody gets it. Somewhere, somehow, the US has to say
Not. My. Job.
Wait, wait...
Nope. Still don’t care.
We are going to watch the slide of Syria into an orgy of genocidal violence. This violence will cross the border into Turkey because it will be between the Kurds who were our allies and who did the heavy lifting against Isis and Turkey our nominal NATO ally who did nothing for us over the last thirty years of fighting in the middle east. If there is going to be a war we should:
Reject Erdogen’s Turkey as an Islamic dictatorship similar to Iran and fully back the Kurds.
Result: Kurdistan becomes a sovereign state eating 1/3 of Turkey 1/3 of Syria and 1/3 of Iraq with a port on the Mediterranean and sharing a border with Iran. Iran with the same relationship the Kurds had with Turkey. Iran can handle a dysfunctional Iraq but how would they do with a unified much larger Kurdistan? That would be a win-win for the United States.
Key point to remember if you leave with the job half done you will have to go back and do it again. We only have one real true ally in the middle east (other than Israel)Kurdistan, make them into the dominant power in the middle east and we can leave behind a lasting peace.