Posted on 10/04/2019 7:10:36 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
The White House on Friday issued a proclamation that would halt migrant entry into the U.S. if the person is pursuing a visa and "will financially burden the United States healthcare system."
Migrants will be considered people who will burden the system if they are not covered by approved health insurance within 30 days of entering the country unless they have enough money to "pay for reasonably foreseeable medical costs."
It does not affect people already holding a valid immigrant visa and does not affect migrants entering the U.S. through other ways including lawful permanent residents. The change also includes exceptions for people seeking certain types of visas including visas for children of U.S. citizens.
People affected by the change would be required to prove that they have met its requirements to a consular officer. The secretary of state will create procedures for making such determinations.
The White House said the change will take effect Nov. 3.
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My “east Indian” friend who is a doctor has a son in the computer industry, a husband teaching at college and a daughter who was in the US Navy. True, when her mom came on extended visits (to care for her young kids) she did not work: But you know, you can't work on a visitor visa.
My husband, a Filipino immigrant (and WWII veteran) arranged for lots of his relatives to migrate to the USA... most are nurses, doctors or technicians. True, it includes a niece who also is on a visitor visa so she can live in the USA and care for her grandkids so her daughter can work at a rural US hospital. Eventually she will get a green card, and be eligible for medical care, but unless you ignore that those who stay home as caregivers or home makers are also contributing to the USA, you are clueless.
Sick people were NOT allowed to enter the country. Been like that for about 150 years.
Hasn’t that always been the case? My father-in-law came to this country with $25 and a sponsor. Lacking either(and good health), he would not have been allowed to enter the US.
The health system in Minneapolis is like that, too.
Voting and school materials written in 40 or 50 languages is enraging, too. The Voting Rights Act required that a language other than English be printed if a significant fraction of the population in a voting precinct were non-English speakers. Those lawmakers didn’t anticipate the completely uncontrolled immigration from every nation, the Democrats wanting to keep everybody in warring, Balkanized special-interest groups and the loss of the desire of many immigrants to want to become true Americans.
But they won’t take care of our Veterans...
Let that sink in.
My stepson had to do that when crossing the border from Washington state into BC a few years back to go to a business convention. Had to prove he was there for a visit of predetermined length and that he had car and health insurance coverage.
I don’t understand it. I’ve worked in two other hospitals here in NJ, some twenty years ago and it was nothing like this. Sometimes it’s like being in a foreign country. And I have never seen an (American born)African-American doctor.
In most towns on the San Francisco peninsula in Silicon Valley, you’d swear you are in China or India.
The AMA also rejected scholarships for medical school, meaning you had to take out a loan. So young doctors graduate with 100 thousand or more of debt.
You simply can't pay that back if you go into practice in a small town or by an HMO.
Then there are the social problems: practice in a small town and there are no good schools for your kids, no socializing for your wife, and you are on call all the time.
True, you get to know your patients, but many patients go to the city to be seen by specialists, so you only see basic illnesses, but these same patients expect you to get up at 3 am when they develop complications to admit them or to arrange for their transfer to the big city.
and remember, newer graduates are women: Who will have no one to date in small towns, and often are radical feminists who hate to treat “despicables” (and despite being liberal, don't like to treat blacks or Hispanics either... few speak Spanish).
So small towns have a choice: a FMG like my husband or my friends, or a nurse practitioner, often a feminist who follows flowcharts to treat you, meaning you better hope you don't have a disease outside the guidelines), or if you are lucky, a physician assistant, who often is an ex EMT or nurse, and has more common sense and is more aggressive than the nurse practitioner.
My husband fought in World War II with the USA, and my East Indian friend's daughter was US Navy. Most of my husband's family are doctors and nurses in Chicago or rural Pennsylvania. Their American kids come here to the Philippines for their nursing and medical school because of the cost of college in the USA, then go back to work.
Where are the Americans? Blame the poor education system, where being successful gets you ridiculed for “white privilege” and if you are white or Asian, you will get discriminated against when you apply to college and medical school.
And here in the rural Philippines, the nursing schools advertise that a degree can get you a job in the US or Australia or UK: once you do that, you have helped move your family out of poverty. Since there are few opportunities for a decent job, you know you will have to go elsewhere to work if you want a "middle class" existence. Our entire family are doctors or nurses, and half of them work overseas, in the US, the UK, Macau, or short term work in the Middle East, because the salaries here are too low to support your family.
So you are getting the more ambitious coming to the USA. and they will assilmiate in a generation or two...and many become REPUBLICANS.
We're becoming Motel 6 for the Third World. It isn't just the field of medicine that this is happening in. Silicon Valley has become "New India''. Our leaders are replacing us with different and more compliant populations. I appreciate your response.
How about if they are at risk of popping out a baby before they exit the country?
Between 1960 and 1980 the number of allopathic medical schools in the United States grew from 85 to 126, and the number of graduates more than doubled from 7,081 to 15,113. 1 The nation’s physician supply grew rapidly, from 235,303 active allopathic physicians in 1965 to 316,491 in 1975. 2 In 1976, in response to concerns about the rapidly growing supply of physicians, the Graduate Medical Education National Advisory Committee (GMENAC) was established to advise the nation on how many physicians were needed in the United States. 3 In 1980 GMENAC concluded that the nation faced a potentially serious surplus and recommended that it limit the number of medical school positions and severely restrict the number of international medical school graduates (IMGs) entering the United States.
what they overlooked, of course, was the increase in need for physicians by a growing elderly population, and the change of medicine from just treating problems to prevention (e.g. blood pressure, cholesterol control, cancer chemotherapy, all of which require you to monitor the patients for side effects)
the result was fewer American physicians, especially in rural areas, and as I noted, since there was a shortage of doctors, new graduates preferred nice suburban practices, not working to death long hours in rural hospitals.
Since American medical schools weren't providing enough doctors, it was filled with immigrants and Americans who studied in foreign medical schools, not to mention physician assistants and nurse practitioners.
It would and needs to be if we limited the number of immigrants we allowed into America. And these people, no matter the status all engage in chain migration. Twenty years ago when I first went to work in this field it wasn’t like this. We’re becoming a bloody Motel 6 for the Third World. When I worked in construction it was the same thing. Mexicans, Central and South Americans pushed America contractors out of every trade, carpenters, electricians, plumbing, sheet metal workers simply because they would work cheaper. They would under bid American contractors and cut corners, pay no workers comp, no insurance and builders turned a blind eye to it. The Hb1 visa program has flooded Silicon Valley with East Indian computer techs. It’s population replacement. I don’t know what if anything Trump is going to do about it.
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