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GOP Leadership Memo Suggests Senate Cannot Block Trial If House Votes To Impeach Trump
Huffpost ^ | Sept 28 2019 | Mary Papenfuss

Posted on 09/29/2019 10:04:26 PM PDT by rintintin

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To: familyop
"The" voters? I think not. If most voters lack enough common sense to know that the Trump Administration and the more sane voters should be harassed no more, much more difficult times are in front of us."

They are sometimes refered to as fence sitters for a reason.

And yes, there are a lot of ignorant voters out there and yes our country does hang in the balance.

41 posted on 09/30/2019 12:30:38 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rintintin

Yes it does.


42 posted on 09/30/2019 12:54:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rintintin

First of all, Justice Roberts “could” declare that the whole shebang is unworthy of proceeding.


43 posted on 09/30/2019 1:02:11 AM PDT by onyx (#StandWithICE)
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To: henbane

“The indictment (Impeachment) is so phony and without weight that Senator McConnell will quash the bogus Articles into oblivion with a Senate vote on the Merits.”

... IF he has 50 votes. Let’s hope he does.


44 posted on 09/30/2019 1:07:32 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: JoSixChip

In the end, all that matters is what those with the most, biggest, baddest weapons think is “legal.”

Do you really think a majority of the US military will side against Trump?


45 posted on 09/30/2019 1:46:01 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: rintintin

The House is the grand jury, the Senate is where the trail is held.


46 posted on 09/30/2019 1:46:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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To: sourcery

If the Senate won’t hold a trial, nobody’s going to stop them.


47 posted on 09/30/2019 1:56:45 AM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: tired&retired

One of the companies Biden invested for China was charged with stealing nuclear secrets from the U.S.

Hunter Buden never registered as a foreign agent.

I’m quite certain that law only pertains to Republicans. Democrats don’t need to register as foreign agents. See Podesta.


48 posted on 09/30/2019 2:06:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: rintintin
A trial would mean witnesses and cross examinations.

It'll never happen

49 posted on 09/30/2019 2:46:49 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true..)
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To: sourcery

No they will follow orders...just as the Germans did...


50 posted on 09/30/2019 3:06:51 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Aria
At this point I think they all want Trump gone so they can get rid of the headache and get back to lining their pockets by selling off this country to China

100% truth.

51 posted on 09/30/2019 3:14:15 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: rintintin

My theory is that the Senate ALWAYS intended on voting on removal from office if Trump were impeached in the House, but McConnell didn’t want to give that away.

What the Dems WANTED was McConnell was to say that there would be no trial in the Senate (great talking point for 2020), but given the non-existent ‘evidence’ of crimes, having the trial and then the vote is MUCH BETTER than not voting, as that leaves the Democrats trying to make a non-existent case.

As to the results of the vote. It will be close to 50 for and 50 against in the Senate, FAR SHORT of the 2/3’s needed to take Trump out. Senator Doug Jones of Alabama is the only Democrat that will have to think very hard before he votes to convict, as that will likely end his career (he’s up next year), and Manchin will have to give it some thought too, if he wants to be viable in the future for anything either in WV, or national. For Republicans, maybe 3 to 5 of them vote to convict, but no more. For the vast majority of Republicans, they know voting to convict, at this point is the end of their careers in politics...that simple.


52 posted on 09/30/2019 4:00:29 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The smart, but risky move, would to declare that the Senate will take up the “TRIAL” after the 2020 election is finished in order to allow the electorate to have a say. Use the Garland rational. If PDJT wins the election then the electorate has decided that the article of impeachment are of no concern to them.

The risk is that for 14 months the Dems and MSM will be 24/7 with off the wall allegations and spin. The Senate could counter that by holding hearings concerning the specific facts behind the articles of impeachment, somewhat like a trial court holding pre-trial hearing to determine if the charges will go forward.


53 posted on 09/30/2019 4:01:58 AM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: sourcery

Great - Roberts would preside......anyone sensing something here?


54 posted on 09/30/2019 4:19:22 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Hostage
In this context, the Senate would review the House’s Articles of Impeachment and vote whether they want their time spent in a trial or not. If the Articles are shabby and partisan, chances are the Senate will say no-go.

I wouldn't be too sure of that as I worry about these:

Murkowski

Collins

Romney

Isackson

Paul

55 posted on 09/30/2019 4:20:14 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: sourcery
The Never-Trumpers will try to sit out, in order that the 2/3 present become Democrats.

In that case, buy lamp-post futures.

56 posted on 09/30/2019 4:21:02 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: rintintin

Hold a trial if it comes to that....this way they can call all the colluders to testify and expose them for the liars they are.


58 posted on 09/30/2019 4:30:51 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( Be kind to your children. They will determine where you live when you get old.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Hold a trial if it comes to that....this way they can call all the colluders to testify and expose them for the liars they are.


There is no reason the “colluders and liars” can’t be compelled to testify now in the GOP controlled Senate. That they are not can only mean the GOP Senate wants POTUS impeached by the House Democrats.

Make no mistake: this ongoing coup is bipartisan in nature


59 posted on 09/30/2019 4:35:13 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: sourcery

Agreed. Such a trial would also afford the opportunity to expose the conspirators. The accuser would need to testify. Those who informed him would need to testify. Others in the WH would have to be identified.. Members of the IC leadership would be asked about. At that time, the breadth of the embedded deep state conspiracy would be revealed. Maybe.


60 posted on 09/30/2019 4:37:44 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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