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Sumner County man claims First Amendment rights violated after citation for car sticker
Fox 17 ^ | 26 September, 2019 | Kathleen Serie

Posted on 09/28/2019 6:13:43 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

This might just flunk the Miller Test, if that’s was LE was using.

But, jeez louise, why waste precious manpower on something so piddly.


21 posted on 09/28/2019 6:56:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: marktwain

His language of his message may offend those with heightened sensibilities, but his message is one agrees with the most patriotic of Americans, therefore it is protected by the First Amendment.


22 posted on 09/28/2019 6:57:03 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Repeat Offender

We used to have what I guess can be called community standards, lines that just weren’t crossed.

While they weren’t enforced by law, they were enforced by Grandma and Miss Sally down the street


23 posted on 09/28/2019 6:58:38 AM PDT by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: BenLurkin

The same was held when people flipped the bird to police. It’s free speech.


24 posted on 09/28/2019 7:00:06 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: mewzilla

Big moneymaker forcing legal taxpaying citizens to comply with all regulations... someone has to pick up the slack.


25 posted on 09/28/2019 7:00:16 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: marktwain

When I was a kid, there was a congressman who was pushing for forced busing in Michigan.

His name was Roth. There was a huge bumper sticker campaign against him with people sporting stickers that read Pith on Roth.

This was in the mid 1970’s. I remember it well as the beginning of the coarseness of our society.


26 posted on 09/28/2019 7:01:17 AM PDT by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: bk1000

If he has a right to display it, according to your own statement, then how can he possibly be given a ticket for doing so? You contradict yourself.

It is obvious that the legal and the moral are in some degree of conflict here. Legally, I think that this guy is on very firm footing, and that his first amendment rights were violated. Morally, I think that most people can agree that the use of crass language like this is far from ideal. However, we need in our society to draw a bright line between that which is permitted and that which is not. On the side of that which is permitted, it is an individual decision as to whether to go up to the limit or not. That is not the job of the police were the courts to decide, it is the job of families, houses of worship, and one’s own conscience. This country was founded upon the idea of not allowing one person, or a group of people called the government, to coerce others. Let’s stick with that, shall we?


27 posted on 09/28/2019 7:04:29 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: USS Alaska

It seems to me that the cops are picking on this guy for some reason. I don’t find his sticker offensive at all. It’s nothing compared to the set of rubber tentacles people have hanging off their trailer hitches. I’m sure the police have better things to do then harass people over a sticker.


28 posted on 09/28/2019 7:04:53 AM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: cyclotic

As soon as they start pulling folks over and ticketing them for expressing _UC_ Trump. I’ll admit you have a point...and maybe if they also remove bad language from TV...until then, see it for what it is - an attempt to stifle freedom of speech they don’t agree with.


29 posted on 09/28/2019 7:10:26 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: cyclotic

And who decides what is “offensive”?

Don’t even go there.


30 posted on 09/28/2019 7:10:54 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: real saxophonist

One day a guy with that sticker on his truck whipped a u-turn across my path (we were going the same direction, and he was on my right). If I hadn’t slammed on the brakes I would have center punched and probably rolled him. I was driving a full size van. So any vehicle with that sticker = stay away!


31 posted on 09/28/2019 7:14:35 AM PDT by Disambiguator ("Progressives" want government in action. Conservatives want government inaction.)
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To: bk1000

Are you kidding me??? So the guy has a right to display it but you’re ok giving him a ticket for exercising his rights because YOU don’t like the message? Do I understand this correctly?

Wow. Just wow


32 posted on 09/28/2019 7:16:52 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

Great reference. Thanks.


33 posted on 09/28/2019 7:18:29 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Maskot

Local ordinance. There is such a thing. The cop can’t ticket the guy because he doesn’t like the bumper sticker, but if there is a local ordinance prohibiting public displays of profanity I’m fine with that. Who decides what is obscene? Come on, there are limits everywhere. Would you be ok with pornography displayed everywhere? What’s the difference?


34 posted on 09/28/2019 7:24:12 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: cyclotic

It would have in times past.

But Beto and JEffinK can use the word with no repercussions.

Because it’s “cool”.

/eyeroll


35 posted on 09/28/2019 7:28:28 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: Rdct29
Better Off Dead - Tentacles
36 posted on 09/28/2019 7:34:28 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: gibsonguy

Florida


37 posted on 09/28/2019 7:40:49 AM PDT by sport
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To: Chickensoup

Big moneymaker for the citizen whose civil rights were violated.

LE has more important fish to fry, dammit.

They need to focus on public safety issues.


38 posted on 09/28/2019 7:44:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: marktwain

“potentially” obscene

The intellectual pollution from academia is descending into common society.

It was only not so many years ago that women on college campuses were demanding removal of outdoor sculpture, art, words, and various personal displays because how “some persons” could, or did, perceive them to be “offensive”; irrespective of being offensive not being the intent or purpose of their creators. The person or object is “guilty” not out of any purpose, motive or intent of theirs but just because how someone else chooses to “feel” about something.

The entire intellectual mess attempts to make “your feelings” the only thing that stands as “truth”, and anyone or anything your feelings don’t like is “guilty”.

This expanded on college campuses to any thoughts that were, or were going to be expressed, whether in class or by an invited speaker - you had an academic right to not feel offended and the cure was to remove anything that offended you.

The theme’s transmission line is now a virus all over society; it has escaped the academic laboratory that spawned it.


39 posted on 09/28/2019 7:51:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: sport

Actually it’s Tennessee.


40 posted on 09/28/2019 8:09:16 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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