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Is continue to work in the coming days to make it a reality. Because this is a reform whose time has come and I'd like to take a moment to explain why it deserves support from my colleagues. Again, we've got to take into account this passed the house of representatives with a vote of 365-65. It's not easy to find something that can garner that much bipartisan support. Wrangling over the nuts and bolts in fine print details of 308 si -- policy as extremely as important as that is can at times allow us to lose sight of more basic foundational principles that should shape any law or any set of laws that we put on the books among other things our laws should be consistent with our nation's deeply-held beliefs and values. A system of laws should also be clear and coherent meaning that it should not only give adequate notice of what is required in order for a person to comply with the law but it also should be something that is capable of being complied with.

Finally, the means employed by any law should be consistent with the objectives that that law seeks to accomplish. These are not partisan principles. They are simple yet incredibly important guideposts that should affect anyone entrusted with the legal system as we are in this chamber. Unfortunately the laws we pass don't always live up to the standards of fair and effective and consistent law-making. One of the starkest examples of our failure to abide by these same principles involves the way that we allocate employment-based green cards. Few ideas are more central to who we are as americans than the notion that people should be judged and treated by their government based on their own merits as individuals, as individuals with inherent god-given rights and not on the basis of the color of their skin or of the country in which they were born. As our founders wrote, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. Those words are as much of a part of our national creed in this moment as they were when they were written some 243 years ago. And our laws should reflect this. They should reflect the enduring truth found in those words which I believe were inspired, they are inspirational to this day. I believe that they were inspired at the time they wrote them and that that's why they're lasting in their importance and their persuasive effect.

Despite this ideal, section 1152 of the immigration and nationality acts provides the number of employment base visas made available to any single foreign state in any year may not exceed 7% of the total number of such visas made available, close quote. That rather antiseptic language, technical and clinical on its face is on closer inspection deeply out of step with our country's commitment to nondiscrimination and to equal treatment under the law.

In practice, section 1152's 7% cap on immigrants from any one country means that if two immigrants apply for an employment-based visa at precisely the same moment and have the exact same skills and education and the other factors taken into account on their application, one of them may wait 12 months for a green card while his counterpart languishes in the green card backlog for decades. And that's not an exaggeration. I mean literally decades. The only factor that accounts for this gross and unfair, difficult to justify or defend disparity of treatment is the fact that the second immigrant in my hypothetical example happened to have been born in a different country than the first. They are otherwise identically situated to each other. One may processed within a year. The other may languish for decades. This is because under the per country cap system, immigrants from larger, more populated countries are only eligible to receive the same number of green cards annually as immigrants from smaller countries.

As a result, the wait times for immigrants from larger countries have grown and grown decade after decade with no end in sight. This amounts to a de facto cint of origin -- country of origin discrimination, plain and simple and no amount of legalese or wonkish policy arguments can cover up that fact. Beyond its incompatibility with the deep and abiding principles upon which this country was founded, the per country cap system violates another one of those commonsense maxims of good lawmaking that I mentioned earlier.

The need for clarity and for consistency in the law. Title 7 of the civil rights act provides that it's unlawful for an employer, quote, to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. And yet, the conditions created by the per country caps virtually guarantee that employers on some level must take into account the national origin when recruiting certain immigrant workers. If prospective hires from one country will be able to obtain a green card in 12 months while those from another, even from a country or even a person who happens to have superior training and skills will be unable to obtain a green card for possibly decades, it's virtually unavoidable that the employer will take national origin into account. So think about that. One section of the u.S. Code forbids employers from taking national employment into account when making employment decisions. Another section makes it impossible for an employer to take that into account.

The grounds on which that kind of system can be defended as sound public policy are beyond me. And the pernicious consequences of this intrinsically flawed system do not stop there. 95% of immigrants stuck in the green card backlog are already in the united states on temporary visas. In many cases they brought their spouses and their children with them to build a life in this country. Yet, because temporary visa holders can only sponsor their foreign-born children up until the time the child turns 21, many in the backlog waiting decades for a green card are forced to choose between separating from their child as the child ages out of the temporary visa or abandoning their dream of settling in america in order to return to their home country in order to keep their family together. In those cases, in the most heartbreaking among those cases of which there are sadly far too many, a child was brought here at a very young age and may have no memory of the country to which they would be forced to return. It bears repeating, this is happening not because these individuals broke the law. They haven't done anything wrong. And not because they don't satisfy the merit-based eligibility criteria needed to receive employment-based green card -- I understand that immigration laws do have consequences and we have to follow the law. But it doesn't stem from any violation of the law or any lack of eligibility stemming from any factor other than country of origin. It happens for no reason other than the country in which they happened to have been born. Now if that made sense, if there were some sound principle and public policy that anyone could point to, then perhaps we wouldn't have occasion to be talking about changing this law. Perhaps we wouldn't have had 365 votes, democrats and republicans, join together in the house of representatives voting to pass this.

The fact is I have yet to meet anyone in this body or in the house of representatives who can defend this flawed policy on its merits because it makes no sense. Finally the per country cap system is irredeemably flawed because among its other problems, it's also incompatible with the goals that our employment-based visa system is meant to advance in the first place. The employment-based visa system is to supposed to enable american businesses to bring the best and the brightest to this country, and yet under the per country caps, a factor that has nothing to do with a person's skills or merit, distorts and in many cases ultimately determines the recruitment process. This weakens the merit-based portion of our immigration system. Indeed, it is directly at war with the supposed purpose of our employment-based green card system. Despite its obvious deficiencies, the per country caps have been part of our immigration laws since the 1950's. It is something that came into our law during the elvis presley era, during the buddy holly era , not exactly something that was intended to remain on the books very long regardless of what they intended at the time as far as how long it should last. I don't believe they had good, legitimate reasons to put it into law then. Whatever reasons they had then certainly don't apply now. They're not even discernible to anyone I know today. So it's long past time that we replace that flawed policy with a more rational and equitable approach. Fortunately the solution to these problems is not only straightforward but agreed upon by a broad bipartisan coalition of senators and of representatives. We must simply eliminate the per country caps in order to ensure a fair and reasonable allocation of employment-based green cards.

That is exactly what the fairness for high-skilled immigrants act would accomplish. Without the per country caps, our skills-based green card system would operate on a first come, first served basis, ensuring that immigrants would be admitted into the united states based purely on their merit rather than their country of origin. This reform would also ensure the hardships caused by decades-long wait times are eliminated. As I've said in the past, there's no question that immigration is one of if not the most politically fraught issues in congress right now. It makes it all the more important for us, at least to come together, to get something done in the areas where we can find common ground. The fairness for high-skilled immigrants act is an important point of common ground. Any immigration bill that has 35 senate cosponsors, 20 republicans and 15 democrats as this bill does presents a unique opportunity to secure a victory for the american people. The reason why this bill commands such widespread support if all points along the political spectrum is because as I've explained, the arguments in its favor are not your typical partisan or ideological arguments. No, they're common sense about the way any rational legal system should work in that it makes clear that the per country caps system must go. That's what is needed to make our immigration laws consistent with our principles. Consistent with other laws on the books and consistent with the merits-base objectives. This component of our immigration system is meant to promote. The other reason that fairness for high-skilled immigrants act has been so successful in attracting support from both sides of the aisle is because we've scrupulously avoided the typical poison pills that so often doom many good-faith attempts at immigration reform.

This bill is not comprehensive in its approach. It's not a comprehensive immigration reform package. It's not even close to that. And that is this fact why this bill is something that we can actually get down now. That's why this bill is so close to being passed. It's why this bill really should pass into law today. While it does not fix many of the other flaws that fix our broken immigration system, it is a great and vitally important start to reform. If we are ever to have a chance at modernizing and repairing our immigration laws, we need to recognize that we cannot necessarily solve all of our problems at once. The fact is that -- the fact that this is the case shouldn't stand in the way of us starting to work on the issues that the american people set us here to solve. We cannot allow the perfect to be the enemy of the excellent. That's why I've come here to seek unanimous consent to pass this legislation today. Now look, I understand that it's drawn an objection. It's drawn an objection in a way that it drew an objection a few weeks ago from another member. We've been able to work through that member's concerns. I'm hopeful, I'm optimistic that my colleague who raised an objection today can be persuaded that this bill needs to be passed. We can address his concerns and that we can resolve them. I'll be working with my distinguished friend and colleague from georgia throughout this weekend to try to find a solution, some explanation or if necessary language that can win his support. We're very, very close on what we believe is appropriate and acceptable.

Now, I remain steadfastly convinced that this law as written, as amended, as offered up by unanimous consent today could and should be the law of the land today. I believe it's ready for prime time. It's ready to become law. But when seeking unanimity on a measure in order to pass it, one must do everything one can do in order to seek actual unanimity and that is what I intend to do in the coming days. I intend to be back next week making yet another attempt to pass this bill into law, and I hope and expect that we will be able to do so. Thank you, mr. President.


This is India vs the USA. This removes restrictions on H-1b's from India!!1 300,000 jobs per year not going to US graduates. In just 5 years that is 1.5 million Americans in IT with no work/jobs.
1 posted on 09/19/2019 12:01:39 PM PDT by central_va
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Senate phone numbers: Link here.
2 posted on 09/19/2019 12:03:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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They want to pass via unanimous consent because they don’t want a roll call vote.

All the traitors want the bill to pass. But NONE of them want to answer for it.


3 posted on 09/19/2019 12:04:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Title should say “consent” not “consistent”.


4 posted on 09/19/2019 12:04:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Unanimous consistent is consistently unanimous.


5 posted on 09/19/2019 12:06:03 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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means that if two immigrants apply for an employment-based visa at precisely the same moment and have the exact same skills and education and the other factors taken into account on their application, one of them may wait 12 months for a green card while his counterpart languishes in the green card backlog for decades

Why is equity in the market for green cards a concern of the US Congress?

The guy who has to wait? Sucks to be him.

Over and out.

7 posted on 09/19/2019 12:06:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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If this goes thru it will prove the entire Senate is made up of Free Traitors™.


9 posted on 09/19/2019 12:07:36 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Isn’t this the “solid conservative” who some back benchers wanted as their first pick for the Supreme Court?


11 posted on 09/19/2019 12:10:28 PM PDT by conservative98
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This is Mitt Romney’s handiwork. Someone has someone’s hand where it should or shouldn’t be depending on your inclination ...


16 posted on 09/19/2019 12:13:24 PM PDT by true believer forever (Fight the Attacks against Trump: PLANT YOUR FEET, LEAN INTO IT, BEAT IT BACK.)
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Just called Lee’s office and told his staffer that we don’t want Lee’s OpenTraitor bill now, or ever. And, that we’re tired of his antiPOTUS/antiAmerican antics.


25 posted on 09/19/2019 12:23:36 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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We MUST replace the Bush League Republicans.

BEFORE they give away our country.


26 posted on 09/19/2019 12:24:53 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Shut down ALL immigration for 25 years, minimum. Shut it down.


28 posted on 09/19/2019 12:29:12 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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Note to Senator Lee.

The U.S. importance as far as H1B visas go is NOT nor can it be concerned with the population, or population size of any one country from which H1B visas applicants may come.

The U.S. if it has concerns about “diversity” of applicants as to country of origin, is not nor can it be about the U.S. trying to affect a proportional distribution of applicants coming here that accords with a proportional representation of the populations of the countries of the world. There is NO U.S. interest in U.S. immigration quotas trying to be sure that most applicants that make it here come from China and India. Contrary to making the U.S. are more “diverse” nation, in terms of the national origins of its people, it would over time make the U.S. mostly of Chinese and Indian origin.

Lastly, the U.S. immigration policy has no direct responsibility to the peoples of any nation, in terms of owing them anything.

I hope there are enough Dims who see Senator Lee’s efforts as “favoring Trumps views” and vote it down for that reason - whether that be true or not.


34 posted on 09/19/2019 12:46:06 PM PDT by Wuli
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Asking again...

Can you please source this letter?
Where did you find it?
What is date?
Assuming Lee wrote it?


46 posted on 09/19/2019 1:12:21 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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This is the Mormon political mafia again pushing for Open Borders. People need to pay attention.


50 posted on 09/19/2019 1:14:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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The need for clarity and for consistency in the law. Title 7 of the civil rights act provides that it's unlawful for an employer, quote, to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. And yet, the conditions created by the per country caps virtually guarantee that employers on some level must take into account the national origin when recruiting certain immigrant workers.

-- SnakeEater Mike Lee.


This is cra-cra.
54 posted on 09/19/2019 1:18:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Mike Lee still a glibalist traitor


59 posted on 09/19/2019 1:31:27 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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Mike Lee is a genuine ass.


65 posted on 09/19/2019 1:44:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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country of origin discrimination, plain and simple and no amount of legalese or wonkish policy arguments can cover up that fact.

-- Sen. Mike Lee


What the hell does that crazy sh!t "country of origin discrimination" even mean?
68 posted on 09/19/2019 1:47:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Found this article on Breitbart...A different take on the H-1B situation...Lost tax dollars, lost spending dollars to communities...I am sending to President Trump...

Senate to Vote on H-1B Program that Sneaks Billions in Payroll from GOP States

From article:
The H-1B program uses cheap foreign workers to replace American workers, and so it dramatically reduces payrolls in legislators’ districts, according to a comparison of two federal databases.

The reduced payroll does not go to the local restaurants, landlords, or various members of the local Chambers of Commerce. The funds do not get to local non-profits, county governments, or city halls. Instead, the diverted payroll is transferred from the politicians’ districts to the coastal investors who hire the cheap H-1Bs in place of Americans, according to U.S. and Indian financial reports.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/19/h-1b-program-sucks-billions-of-s-in-payroll-from-gop-states/

Probs should post this separately later...


70 posted on 09/19/2019 1:55:37 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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He uses his mouth prettier than a 20 dollar whore.

That’s a lot of words, and you probably need a decoder ring to understand what he is actually intending.

Build the wall and stop the flood is all I care about.
I do not care about immigration reform. I want it stopped, not codified and organized.


79 posted on 09/19/2019 2:19:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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