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Trump Gets Shocking New Huawei Warning—From Microsoft
Forbes ^ | Sep 8, 2019, 03:30am | Zak Doffman

Posted on 09/18/2019 1:34:01 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

More Huawei defiance was aimed at U.S. President Trump on Sunday, but this time it was coming from much closer to home. Brad Smith, the President and Chief Legal Officer of America’s own Microsoft has criticized his government’s treatment of the Chinese tech giant—suggesting that the company’s U.S. supply chain restrictions should be revisited.

In an interview, Smith suggests that the action taken against Huawei should be revisited, ensuring that anything done has a “sound basis in fact, logic, and the rule of law.” He has seen this first-hand, when Microsoft has itself engaged with the U.S. bodies enforcing the restrictions. As has been reported, he explains, the justifications are thin and draped in inference and “need to know.”

“Oftentimes,” Smith told the newspaper, “what we get in response is, ‘well, if you knew what we knew, you would agree with us’.

September is set to be a significant month for Huawei as it prepares for life without access to the U.S. tech it has built its consumer business around. And now, as David Phelan reports for Forbes, all eyes are on the imminent launch of the Mate 30 Series to see just how Huawei intends to launch new products despite U.S. restrictions. An Android smartphone targeting the international market but lacking Gmail and Google Maps and access to the Play Store seems hard to imagine, but, as Phelan reports, that’s where Huawei now finds itself.

Following Trump’s meeting with President Xi, his Chinese counterpart in June, there was talk of exemptions for some of Huawei’s U.S. supply chain where national security concerns were not in play. This was confirmed by the Commerce Department—U.S. firms were encouraged to apply for licenses. But then the standoff hardened, and of the 100+ U.S. supplier applications none have reportedly been awarded.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 5g; ccp; china; georgesoros; huawei; hussein; kag; maga; microsoft; trump
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To: Zhang Fei

Restricting Huawei from using US parts accomplishes very little in the short run. In the long run there are only negatives as Huawei finds or develops substitutes.


21 posted on 09/18/2019 5:23:17 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: bk1000
I remember formatting new Chinese made mini-floppy disks that already had viruses on them.

Things are a lot more sophisticated now. For one thing, Huawei isn't selling us stuff like that or analogous to that. For another, we are selling parts to Huawei. Except now such sales to Huawei might be restricted, foolishly.

22 posted on 09/18/2019 5:28:36 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
Restricting Huawei from using US parts accomplishes very little in the short run. In the long run there are only negatives as Huawei finds or develops substitutes.

BS. That is total crap. The USA needs to embargo all Chinese made electronics and tariff electronic imports to the USA so the USA can HAVE an electronics industry again.

23 posted on 09/18/2019 5:29:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: palmer

[Restricting Huawei from using US parts accomplishes very little in the short run. In the long run there are only negatives as Huawei finds or develops substitutes.]


They don’t buy from us because they like us. Having to find or develop substitutes will cost them big time. If Cisco had to completely rejigger its supply chain, it would be a major undertaking. Not getting Android updates completely destroys Huawei’s smartphone business outside of China. Google spends a huge amount of money on Android features. Huawei can’t replicate that without spending similar amounts. But Huawei doesn’t have Google’s revenue base with which to defray its expenses. And it’s unclear that Huawei has the software expertise. And that’s just one piece of Huawei’s business.


24 posted on 09/18/2019 5:31:35 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Bill Gates is one of the biggest POS to every walk the face of the earth and I see his spawn Microshaft hasn’t changed.


25 posted on 09/18/2019 5:31:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Forebes, one of the Cheap Labor Express’s media of record.


26 posted on 09/18/2019 5:33:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bk1000

From what I understand, it is really difficult to circumvent hardware-based vulnerabilities. Viruses can be deleted from Storage but is not so easy to deal with when it’s ingrained in the hardware.


27 posted on 09/18/2019 5:34:12 AM PDT by BOBWADE (WWG1WGA)
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To: Zathras

With so many WiFi hotspots, I rarely use 4G.

Why is 5G so important if 4G is so rarely used?


28 posted on 09/18/2019 5:34:50 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: fso301

Yup. What was it Lenin said about capitalists and rope?

‘When time comes to hang the capitalists, the Capitalists themselves will sell the rope for that.’
—VI Lenin


29 posted on 09/18/2019 5:50:09 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: bert
A 95% stake in Forbes was sold to a Hong Kong investment group in 2014 (“Integrated Whale Media Investments”)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes

30 posted on 09/18/2019 7:09:19 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Zhang Fei
An Android smartphone targeting the international market but lacking Gmail and Google Maps and access to the Play Store seems hard to imagine, but, as Phelan reports, that’s where Huawei now finds itself.

That sounds pretty close to what I'd like to have, but the whole Chinese military connection is a bit off-putting...

31 posted on 09/18/2019 7:40:36 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhooChinese meds and cities burn whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Zhang Fei

What’s been a bigger problem for US gov computer network security over the last 30 years, Huawei or all holes in Microsoft products?


32 posted on 09/18/2019 9:28:12 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Zhang Fei
Huawei announces Microsoft cloud apps partnership (09/05/2017)

Microsoft Pulls Huawei Server Products, Laptop Following US Ban (05/23/2019)

33 posted on 09/18/2019 1:19:38 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I just loaded Linux Mint on my desktop after my hard drive crashed. It was windows 7 and the files were backed up, so no big deal. I found out I’d need to shell out $69 bucks for a download, and it’s being phased out.

It was amazingly simple to install Mint. It’s smooth as chocolate on my 5+ year old Lenovo tower. It’s free—well, it probably has tracking bugs and the like. The name “Google” shows up for searches. I expect it will take some time to de-louse it. But Windows does that too.

I think Microsoft and Apple sauce are in trouble.


34 posted on 09/18/2019 6:35:01 PM PDT by tsomer
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