Posted on 09/16/2019 4:08:00 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Iran launched nearly a dozen cruise missiles and over 20 drones from its territory in the attack on a key Saudi oil facility Saturday, a senior Trump administration official told ABC News Sunday.
It is an extraordinary charge to make, that Iran used missiles and drones to attack its neighbor and rival Saudi Arabia, as the region teeters on the edge of high tensions.
President Donald Trump warned the U.S. was "locked and loaded" to respond to the attack on Sunday, waiting for verification of who was responsible and for word from Saudi Arabia on how to proceed.
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I am ignorant of some things. When were the last Saudi boots on the ground outside their Kingdom, and how many KIAs did they take?
Because I would hate to continue to think of them as pussies if I am wrong.
If you were paying attention, you would know that the reason for the attack is Iran sending a message to President Trump that there will be punishment to allies for the devistating sanctions.
Iran can’t effectively attack the USA so it goes for our ally. We are at war with Iran and are in effect actually killing them as we post this morning.
To see the big picture, you must widen your visual horizon
It is not us and them and them
Us includes the first them, USA, Israel and the GCC
“Please join in the containment of the tinfoil hat brigade ....L
I’m happy too. Enjoy your day.
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I know they were in Gulf War 1 and of course right now they are in Yemen.
“I would like to see a few more Suadi martyrs to their homeland, and few to none of ours.”
Hear, hear!
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I understand. We aren’t arguing that point. So, condescension is unwarranted if you follow my posts.
I have a tough time buying into your speculation.
Show me the KIAs. I need verifiable facts, please.
well, Saudi Arabia has been at war in Yemen for some time now.
We do not know what Saudi Special Forces are engaged there. We also don’r know what such forces are currently engaged in side Iran.
I find it hard to think that we don’t have 24/7 satellite coverage of that region and could produce images of these launches if they occurred. Where are they?
Still waiting for a KIA count in order to change my opinion that
SAUDIS ARE PUSSIES.
Enlightened1 is not insinuating what you assert. You should reread.
The same global network that tried shooting missiles from N Korea toward Japan are at work in Iran.
Iran has been moving in the same direction of peace as is N Korea by design of the Trump Admin.
To stop the peace movement and keep clandestine funding and contraband flowing, an attack by Iran was scripted.
Yemeni Houthis are called rebels but in reality they are hired assassins, mercenaries that are trained and sophisticated. But they don’t initiate attacks unless they’re paid. They’re being blamed and it’s said that Iran is paying them but Iran doesn’t have the funds. Iranian banking worldwide is frozen with illicit trickles possible but likely not enough to pay the Houthis for a sustained conflict. The funds likely are coming from outside Iran through Iran to make it seem as if it is Iran that is pulling the strings.
Since Las Vegas, the Saudis are under Trump’s thumb. Their funding to global arms merchants has dried up and now their oil supply is ratcheting down. A wedge is needed to drive between the US and SA.
Netanyahu and Trump are discussing a mutual defense pact which could be related as Iran’s blame the Jews movement would be motivated to create a diversion from that development. The Iranian people do not hate Jews but their radical Mullahs will seize any opportunity to increase Jew hatred.
Here’s the racket, war is profitable monetarily and politically. The illicit military arms network outside the US with tentacles inside the US needs funding and the Trump Admin’s gains in the Middle East need pushback. An incident is needed to jumpstart the US arms supply machine into a conflict.
The Iranian power apparatus is cash starved and will consider doing the will of those bringing funds that need Iran to create a diversion. The motive of these globalist actors is to create chaos and draw energy away from current developments, notably gains of the Trump Admin.
The Iranian people who are at core a reasonable people but who are forced to be radicalized by a militant theocracy have been restless against their own governing groups. The Iranian people have a historical mistrust for anything to do with SA. To get their thoughts away from the miserable reality that pervades their daily existence, a conflict with SA will work whether the Iranian people want it or not. Such conflicts quell, suppress any Iranian grassroots unrest. Outside money and a basis to suppress local unrest provide powerful motives for Iranian powerbrokers to follow a globalist script.
The above is connecting dots gleaned from many sources, Breitbart, intermediaries for Houthis satellite news reports, official statements. Conclusions are based on motives and intents, who has real motive, who has capacity to pay mercenaries, etc. and experience with global traders doing business in that regional arena.
KIA? Ha
It is not Viet Nam. Your point of reference is not presently valid. Your premise is fallacious
I feel the same way. I ask myself who would potentially gain from us attacking Iran in this deal. I think back to John Bolton. Others might say Israel. I am no scholar and am most likely wrong.
Amen
While I quite hate both the Iranian and Saudi regimes, you have to hand it to the Persians:
At least Iran has balls.
Bert, aside from this conversation, I don’t think we have had many disagreements over the years.
So, we will just disagree here and move on if that’s okay with you.
Blueprints are one thing. They have blueprints for an atomic bomb too.
It doesn’t mean they have the capacity to manufacture from the blueprints.
You should expand your thought train to be more complete..
The question is where did they get the cruise missiles, not where did they get the blueprints.
To get missiles, you need a supply chain, you need assembly, you need testing, you need funding, you need operators.
Expand your thinking as it is pitifully shallow.
Your statement would have been more meritful and contributory had it been along the lines:
“Iran copied a Russian cruiae missile design. But where they got the means to produce them given the extreme funding sanctions placed on them is a question mark.”
The US has already attacked Iran and is actually killing them. The Trump imposed sanctions are effectively destroying the Iranian economy.
President effecticely, very effectively, went to war with Iran months ago and is winning big time
Many here fail to appreciate that Trump fights with sanctions rather than bombs. He is winning in Iran and China and North Korea with out firing a single shot
Iran has retaliated kinetically...... at Abquiq
$1,700,000,000.00 in cash on pallets from Obama can fund a lot.
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